Character Matters - A Haslam 2016 TL

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She is like 85. It wouldn't be too hard for her too die and the Dems nominate someone who is an even bigger neo-lib than her.

Moonbeam v Arnie, 2018!

Hey just wanted to say Political TLs aren’t usually my thing, and I’ll admit I didn’t even know who he was before clicking on this thread, but I’ve read most of it and it’s a pretty darn entertaining TL. Keep up the good work and I’ll be watching!

Thank you. I'll try to keep the quality of my posts and try to keep you entertained.
 
One problem I have with this is that Haslam just targets Turkey like the plague and he doesn't think any repercussions from it. First of all, Turkey is a decades-long member of NATO, one that was supremely important to keeping the Soviets in check. While their policies against the Kurds and Armenians are not right, relentessly targeting them just for this is not a good move on the international scale. It shows members of NATO that the U.S can instantly turn on them if a President doesn't find their policies to be good, undoing decades of diplomatic relations. Haslam here has basically screwed any chance of Turkish European integration and joining NATO. And potentially he is pushing Turkey to Russia's sphere of influence, a bad call in all respects. Also Turkey should have definitely left NATO by now and would have most likely kicked out U.S troops, crippling them in their war on ISIS unless America manages to get Iraq and the other Arab states as close allies, with Haslam still condemning many of them for their policies.

Then there's also the sending of U.S troops to Taiwan. In international law we do not recognize Taiwan and acknowledge on paper that Taiwan is part of China. While we are De Facto allies with Taiwan, we De Jure do not support them against the People's Republic of China. By sending American troops to Taiwan, you are essentially sending U.S troops to Chinese soil without permission from Beijing, which is a HUGE no no. If America does this then China is going to say "Fuck It!" and disregard everyone else's rights to the South China sea, militarizing the entire zone and building dozens of artificial islands. Sending American troops to Taiwan does absolutely of strategic value in the long run since China wasn't going to declare war on Taiwan anyways and Taiwan can hold on its own just fine. You are essentially recognizing that the ROC is the legitimate Chinese government and the PRC is not. Creating HUGE diplomatic ripples that sparks a world crisis for no reason.

There's reasons why we still cooperate with the authoritarian Arab states despite their human rights violations and we don't support Taiwanese independence. It doesn't look good, but it's successful diplomatic pragmatism and saves more lives in the long run than spiting them.
 
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One problem I have with this is that Haslam just targets Turkey like the plague and he doesn't think any repercussions from it. First of all, Turkey is a decades-long member of NATO, one that was supremely important to keeping the Soviets in check. While their policies against the Kurds and Armenians are not right, relentessly targeting them just for this is not a good move on the international scale. It shows members of NATO that the U.S can instantly turn on them if a President doesn't find their policies to be good, undoing decades of diplomatic relations. Haslam here has basically screwed any chance of Turkish European integration and joining NATO. And potentially he is pushing Turkey to Russia's sphere of influence, a bad call in all respects. Also Turkey should have definitely left NATO by now and would have most likely kicked out U.S troops, crippling them in their war on ISIS unless America manages to get Iraq and the other Arab states as close allies, with Haslam still condemning many of them for their policies.

Then there's also the sending of U.S troops to Taiwan. In international law we do not recognize Taiwan and acknowledge on paper that Taiwan is part of China. While we are De Facto allies with Taiwan, we De Jure do not support them against the People's Republic of China. By sending American troops to Taiwan, you are essentially sending U.S troops to Chinese soil without permission from Beijing, which is a HUGE no no. If America does this then China is going to say "Fuck It!" and disregard everyone else's rights to the South China sea, militarizing the entire zone and building dozens of artificial islands. Sending American troops to Taiwan does absolutely of strategic value in the long run since China wasn't going to declare war on Taiwan anyways and Taiwan can hold on its own just fine. You are essentially recognizing that the ROC is the legitimate Chinese government and the PRC is not. Creating HUGE diplomatic ripples that sparks a world crisis for no reason.

There's reasons why we still cooperate with the authoritarian Arab states despite their human rights violations and we don't support Taiwanese independence. It doesn't look good, but it's successful diplomatic pragmatism and saves more lives in the long run than spiting them.

For the whole Turkey part, They're already filing for dropping out of NATO now, I just forgot to add it in April. :biggrin: You'll see them leave before the Summit, dw. For Turkish European integration, IOTL, Erdogan is acting like a spoiled brat about not getting into the EU (and I have little to no respect for Erdogan. He is a disgusting and vile person no worse than Assad and Gaddaffi) but ITTL, they drop the whole thing because Haslam basically isn't letting them and Europe wants to get on his good side, plus IIRC, JRM thinks Turkey is a terrible country as well. For Iraq, Haslam is overlooking any Human Rights abuses that they are doing mainly because they themselves are fighting against ISIS and have far less problems than Turkey does (Sharia law or close to it, denying Genocide, restricting freedom of Speech etc etc) and one has to recall that Haslam's military forces are still located in Cyprus (small force that is really there to just make sure Turkey doesn't attempt to turn it into a puppet state). After the Turkish Civil War, which is coming by Early 2018, Haslam will be more accepting of them once they recognize the genocide and apologize for the actions against the Kurds. Finally, the Russian part, why would Russia want an Alliance with Turkey? Right now, they have their own problem as Syria begins to become more NSRA controlled and they don't want to risk poking the American Eagle, especially with the chance of getting Belarus. At the same time, Turkey's actions against Assad in 2016, even if it was little to none, hurt their relations quite a bit. After Belarus and Assad is gone, maybe an alliance could be made, but until then, Russia ain't risking it.

For Taiwan, troops are a bit of loose term, I meant to type officers, who were there to help train to Taiwanese Army (which is legal, unless my International code of conduct say it isn't).

For the other two Arab countries (Saudi Arabia and Pakistan) who have bore the brunt of Haslam's attacks, Pakistan is scared of the US to an extent, as the Taliban thing in the former post (number 418 in this thread) just showed, they will do things that Allies, no matter what, shouldn't do. Normally, the US would have to bite their tongue, but with CAAO behind them, they really don't have to care about losing one ally when they already have 5 more behind them. With Saudi Arabia, while President Haslam hasn't met him yet, they are reforming because of the Saud Prince and because of that, Haslam is appreciative, so relations between those two countries are still fine and rather well.

I hope this explanation doesn't give you more questions and I hope explained enough. I apologize if I sound agitated, I'm just stressed due to a breakup and a lot of other things that I'd rather not go into detail on a forum like this because it's personal.

I hope you have a great day.
 
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