Changing the Dial: A TLIAD

This is truly excellent. A common PoD played out with proper butterflies to create a truly different world with some very clever choices (Kathleen Gilligan and Holtzman are smart hipster choices; Sean Penn as the ATL Trump is just absurdly perfect).

The frontispieces are good too; the one for Wallace is genuinely a bit creepy once I looked at it for a bit.

Can we get a list of TTL's Presidents and other world leaders?
 
This is truly excellent. A common PoD played out with proper butterflies to create a truly different world with some very clever choices (Kathleen Gilligan and Holtzman are smart hipster choices; Sean Penn as the ATL Trump is just absurdly perfect).

The frontispieces are good too; the one for Wallace is genuinely a bit creepy once I looked at it for a bit.

Can we get a list of TTL's Presidents and other world leaders?

That's a shout - British PMs and Soviet leaders are what I'm wondering about.
 
This is truly excellent. A common PoD played out with proper butterflies to create a truly different world with some very clever choices (Kathleen Gilligan and Holtzman are smart hipster choices; Sean Penn as the ATL Trump is just absurdly perfect).

The frontispieces are good too; the one for Wallace is genuinely a bit creepy once I looked at it for a bit.
Thanks for the praise. I've been planning to continue this since the Summer of 2015, I even had the Thompson and Specter cards made. Truth be told, I only did it about now because I stumbled across the partially completed Holtzman update in my files.

Chris Matthews (who becomes VP instead) was originally meant to fill Gilligan's place. His card was partially complete. Then I read over the Gilligan update, and I remembered that Sebelius was his daughter. Thus, she became the choice to replace Penn.

I had a lot of fun writing up Penn's presidency, though I feel that I got a bit carried away with the 2004-2016 analogues.

Can we get a list of TTL's Presidents and other world leaders?
That's a shout - British PMs and Soviet leaders are what I'm wondering about.

I was already working on one. What luck!

1961-1965: Richard Nixon / Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican)
1960: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic)
1965-1969: George Smathers / Edmund Muskie (Democratic)
1964: Richard Nixon / Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican)
1969-1977: George Romney / Millicent Fenwick (Republican)
1968: George Smathers / Edmund Muskie (Democratic), John Smitz / Maxwell Rafferty (Independent)
1972: Edmund Muskie / Albert Brewer (Democratic), Jesse Helms / Thomas J. Anderson (Independent)

1977-1979: George Wallace / John Gilligan (Democratic)
1976: Millicent Fenwick / Ron Paul (Republican)
1979-1979: John Gilligan / Vacant (Democratic)
1979-1981: John Gilligan / John Jay Hooker (Democratic)
1981-1989: Charles Evers / Mark Hatfield (Republican)

1980: John Gilligan / John Jay Hooker (Democratic)
1984: John Connally / Lee Hamilton (Democratic)

1989-1991: Trent Lott / Nick Begich (Democratic)
1988: Pete McCloskey / John Warner (Republican)
1991-1993: Trent Lott / Vacant (Democratic)
1991-1993: Trent Lott / Walter D. Huddleston (Democratic)
1993-1997: Elizabeth Holtzman / Jim Folsom Jr. (Democratic)

1992: John Gavin / Clayton Williams (Republican)
1997-2005: Arlen Specter / Donald H. Rumsfeld (Republican)
1996: Elizabeth Holtzman / Jim Folsom Jr. (Democratic)
2000: Chuck Robb / Ed Rendell (Democratic)

2005-2013: Sean Penn / Tim Roemer (Democratic)
2004: Elizabeth Hanford-Alexander / James Webb (Republican)
2008: James Webb / Dennis Tito (Republican)

2013-: Kathleen Gilligan / Chris Matthews (Democratic)
2012: George S. Romney Jr. / Marcus Bachmann (Republican)

United Kingdom
1957-1965: Harold Macmillan (Conservative majority)
1965-1965: John Profumo (Conservative majority)
1965-1973: Harold Wilson (Labour majority)
1973-1975: Roy Jenkins (Labour majority)
1975-1980: Anthony "Tony" Barber (Conservative majority)
1980-1985: David Marquand (Labour majority)
1985-1993: Edward Heath (Conservative majority)
1993-1998: Jack Cunningham (Labour-Liberal coalition)
1998-2001: John Gummer (Conservative minority)
2001-2006: Chris Mullin (Labour majority)
2006-2010: Oliver Heald (Conservative majority)
2010-20XX: Alan Johnson (Labour majority)

France
1958-1962: Charles de Gaulle (UNR)*
1962-1965: Gaston Monnverville (PR)
1965-1969: Michel Debré (UNR)
1969-1979: François Mitterrand (PS)
1979-1984: Jacques Chaban-Delmas (PUD)**
1984-1994: Marie-France Garaud (UNR)
1994-2001: Bernard Kouchner (PS)
2001-
2015: Gérard Longuet (UNR)
2015-20XX: Frédéric Mitterrand (PS)

*Assasinated in Paris.
**Parti unioniste démocratique (or Democratic Unionist Party in english), formed as a vehical for Chaban-Delmas after a split in the UNR.

Soviet Union/Russia
1964-1971: Leonid Brezhnev
1971-1986: Mikhail Suslov
1986-1991: Pyotr Masherov
1991-1997: Dmitri Yazov
1997-2001: Yegor Ligachyov
2001-2008: Yegor Gaidar


2008-2009: Yegor Gaidar (Communist Party)*
2009-2011: Sergey Shoygu (Rally for the Republic)
2011-20XX: Kirsan Ilyumzhinov (Alternative for Russia)**


*Resigned in favour of Shoygu, who was confirmed as President by the Duma.
**Elected on a fervently anti-establishment platform. Has been investigated for corruption, and the Duma is considering a free vote on his removal from office.

Canada
1957-1962: John Diefenbaker (Progressive Conservative)
1962-1964: Lester Pearson (Liberal)
1964-1967: John Diefenbaker (Progressive Conservative)
1967-1971: Davie Fulton (Progressive Conservative)
1971-1977: René Lévesque (Liberal)
1977-1977: Brian Mulroney (Progressive Conservative)
1977-1979: Paul Martin Sr. (Liberal)
1979-1988: Erik Nielsen (Progressive Conservative)
1988-1992: Laurence Decore (Liberal)
1992-1994: Nancy Macbeth (Liberal)
1994-2001: Yves Ryan (Progressive Conservative)
2001-2003: Nancy Macbeth (Liberal)
2003-2004: Paul Martin Jr. (Liberal)
2004-2009: Gordon Campbell (Progressive Conservative)
2009-2011: Allan Rock (Liberal)
2011-20XX: Thomas 'Tommy' Mulcair (Progressive Conservative)*

*Convergence, thy name is Mulcair.

Rhodesia/Zimbawe

1964-1974: Ian Smith (Rhodesian Front)

1974-1985: Josiah Tongogara (ZANU)
1985-1989: Ndabaningi Sithole (ZANU)
1989-1996: Joshua Nkomo (ZAPU-Justice coalition)
1996-2000: Eddison Zvbogo (ZAPU)
2000-2009: Sally Hayfron (ZANU)*
2009-20XX: Morgan Tsvangirai (ZAPU-Agrarian coalition)


**Widely regarded as Zimbawe's 'Iron Lady'.

South Africa

1966-1978: B.J. Vorster (National)
1978-1986: Andries Petrus Treurnicht (National)
1986-1994: Clive Derby-Lewis (National)*
1994-1996:
Pik Botha (National)
1996-1997: Lucas Mangope (ANC)
1997-20XX: Winnie Mandela (ANC)


*Extreme hardliner. Assassinated in 1994 after the start of the civil war.

'West Germany'

1969-1977: Willy Brandt (SPD)*
1977-1980: Helmut Kohl (CDU/CSU)**
1980-1982:
Helmut Schmidt (SPD)

1982-1992: Lothar Späth (CDU/CSU)
1992-1999: Johannes Rau (SPD)
1999-2007: Edmund Stoiber (CDU/CSU)
2007-2008: Franz Müntefering (SPD)

*Elected under the FPTP system, adopted by the previous government.
*Killed when his train derails in the countryside.

'East Germany'

1960-1971: Walter Ulbricht
1971-1980: Heinz Hoffmann

1980-1990: Albert Norden
1990-2002: Hans Modrow
2002-2008: Vera Lengsfeld


Germany
2008-2008:
Hans-Dietrich Genscher (Independent)
2008-2010: Franz Müntefering (SPD)
2010-2011: Horst Seehofer (CDU/CSU-VisionForGermany coalition)
2011-2013: Bodo Ramelow (SPD)
2013-20XX: Steffen Heitmann (CDU/CSU)


Apologies @Daltonia for nicking your own list.
 
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a) Yay, PM Mullin.

b) Would I be correct in thinking that the Profumo Affair took longer to break TTL, given Profumo managed to squeak in a year as Pm.

c) I hope Alan Johnson is doing well, how vengeful is the national mood over the Falklands?
 
a) Yay, PM Mullin.
I quite like him as well.

b) Would I be correct in thinking that the Profumo Affair took longer to break TTL, given Profumo managed to squeak in a year as Pm.
Yes. In fact, Profumo-gate is one of the factors that leads to Wilson gaining a large majority.

c) I hope Alan Johnson is doing well, how vengeful is the national mood over the Falklands?
He's doing fine, nothing too controversial except the attempts at a diplomatic wrenching away of the islands.

There was very severe backlash. Many former Tories stood under the "Return the Falklands NOW" label. One candidate even caused the PM to almost lose his seat.
 
Clive Derby-Lewis... Yeesh - not even I would do that.
He's minister of security in NSS, isn't he?

But yeah, I was going for a worse case South Africa and a better outcome for Zimbawe. Let's just say that neither Mandela or Mugabe make it out of their cells alive.
 
He's minister of security in NSS, isn't he?

But yeah, I was going for a worse case South Africa and a better outcome for Zimbawe. Let's just say that neither Mandela or Mugabe make it out of their cells alive.

Yeah, but I have no intention of letting him have power in NSS. At least his party leader, Andries Treurnicht was a gentleman and refused to use racist language, despite his views.
 
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