Challenge: WW1 victory reversed

With a POD after August 1914, your challenge is for Russia to win WW1 and the Western Entente to lose. No US involvement.

Good Luck.
 

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Lol, this is ASB. You want Germany to knock out France, Britain and Italy, but in the end lose to the Russians. You need an earlier POD. The Russians must be wanked, and the same goes for the German navy.
 
Your POD is too late for this to happen... you need at least 5 years of major military reforms in Russia under a super competent administration
 
A series of meteor showers bombard western Europe, leaving only Austria-Hungary and Russia intact. That could work.
 
Perhaps Russia Signs a treaty after Tannenberg and Galacia (which goes poorly for them in this scenario), Germany exhausts itself defeating France, then Russia stabs them in the back? What would make them sign a treaty early on like that?
 
Well, it was the Russian 1914 Offensives that caused the Germans to actually swing troops round to the East. They had anticipated the sleepy Russians to take a bit longer to get grinding. What if Russia doesn't really begin assaults in 1914, but waits for 1915?

This way, Germany is still pounding away at France and the BEF, and AH deals their sad little war with Italy. Maybe Russia does some minor fighting with Ottomans to keep the Allies from whining too much.

This will have the dual effect of the Germans pouring more and more men in the West, where the majority will be, where they will no doubt be making more gains than OTL, etc. So, when in 1915, the Russians do begin punching at Galicia and East Prussia, perhaps they meet with less resistance. I mean, they took Galicia easily enough, but maybe East Prussia loses a bit. OR they put much much more effort into toppling AH instead of going after Germany...

Germany then realizes that - while they have France on the ropes - little brother Austria is in danger, they swing troops about as OTL and by 1917 France is looking for peace, Britain can't carry the fight without France, and Russia is in a better position to bargain. Maybe they'll exit the war as 'victors' early like a reversed Brest-Litovsk. That is, AH is cut up with Russia getting some control - namely Galicia - and makes a deal with Germany where Germany gets some extra say-so in Austria and the borders stay the same. Or perhaps Russia proposes the treaty to demolish the AH to appease Russia, Italy, and Ottomans. And the Serbs, since they started it all.

With the Ottomans out of the war with Russia (maybe), they might end up seeking peace with the Allies, but it also might be too late. Italy, getting what they want from the cut up AH, leaves the war. Maybe. And thus Germany doesn't have to worry about propping up the AH, fighting the Russians, occupying and guarding huge swathes of countryside, and can ignore the Italians. Thus its mopping up of France as needed, and forcing the Brits to read the writing on the wall.

So: Attack later to allay CP fears; attack en masse on AH, the weaker partner; no total war demands, but realpolitik the Germans to a reasonable agreement.

Unlikely as all get out, but could happen.
 
IOTL the Germans moved some ersatz divisions from west to east in August 1914, and more when they lost at Gumbinnen. They then lost in the west.

So perhaps no divisions were sent from east to west, and those exta units allowed Germany to win the Race to the Sea, which so weakened the west that Germany won there. But without the extra units, and a lot of luck for Russia, the huge numbers that invaded east Prussia carried the invasion to a successful conclusion. The war was over by Christmas, Germany making gains in the west and losses in the east.
 
How about as well as
  • Russia avoiding the advance and defeat in East Prussia
  • Germany not moving the troops from west to east
  • More luck German luck avoiding the miracle of the Marne causing the French to sue for peace leaving the British to evacuate the BEF.
The tsar makes concessions after the 1905 troubles and gives more Russians a stake the state. This creates a more motivated population as merit is well rewarded

After the above scenario maybe a CP advance into Russia is beaten by weather weakening the CP. This allows the superiority in Russian numbers supplied with the wealth of the UK with the Royal Navy controlling the seas to advance on Germany and AH. With guerrilla warfare a problem in occupied France the Germans might sue for peace
 
How bout this, for whatever reason the spanish flu hits the entente the worst, the Germans not as bad, and the russians hardly at all. The Germans force plague ridden France and UK and Italy to accept favorable terms for germany, and then the Russians defeat the germans afterward.
 
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