Create a scenario where a US expeditionary force joins the Peninsular War in Portugal and Spain, fighting with Wellington against France. What gets the US involved and how does the American presence help the war effort?
Only possibility I see is that the War of 1812 becomes more of a skirmish.
Issues are resolved, no impressment, the British subsidize or insure trade
lost by the lack of French buyers, and Land is granted in some manner.
Perhaps even an opportunity to gain spanish posessions in N.A.
The biggest question would be why would the Brits bother? The US was a minor power at the time and the biggest expeditionary force it could send is MAYBE a a brigade or two.
What if the quasi-war between France and the USA is longer and more intense, maybe even a small scale landing on American soil by France (say a bit like the attacks on Ireland and defeated in the same way). There is never a formal peace and the USA is after revenge and a chance to strike at France directly.
I think Wellington, esp in the early days before the Portugese were ready, only had a small army so a small USA force, if reasonably equipped and trained, would be welcomed.
That sounds sensible.![]()
Wasn't there already that 'Royal American' Regiment post 1783? Not sure how many actual 'Merkins were in it.
Wasn't there already that 'Royal American' Regiment post 1783? Not sure how many actual 'Merkins were in it.
60th Royal Americans? I think they were mainly Germans.
EDIT: Gazump me, eh, Jason?![]()
There was but I think by now it was largely non-American, perhaps even more German.
60th Royal Americans? I think they were mainly Germans.
EDIT: Gazump me, eh, Jason?![]()
All ISTR:
The 60th had 4 Bns, most Americans (although again, Pennsylvanian German-Americans were the largest subgroup). They were Redcoated line units.
5th (Rifle) Bn, 60th were raised from various Germans etc. during the late French Revolutionary War, and were the first rifle armed British unit (although most British battalions had 10-20 rifle armed flankers in each centre coy, which were grouped into an adhoc "Rifle Coy" in addition to the Light Coy, which was in turn subborned to the Brigade Light Battalion, which in turn subborned to the Divisional Light Brigade in tactical organisation)
6th Bn, 60th was raised as a Line Bn in Canada to strengthen the garrison, and the 7th was raised in Nova Scotia late on during the War of 1812 as a Greenjacketed Light Infantry unit.
Edit: Only 5/60th served in Europe, hence the misconception they were mostly Germans. The other 6 Bns served in the Americas and were Anglo-American/Canadian
That sounds pretty right to me. There's a précis in one of my magazines somewhere, but I've no idea which!