challenge: Turn Hitler into an "Enlightened Despot" like Napoleon

Titus_Pullo

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Just as the title says. How can you turn Hitler into a generally benevolent dictator, none anti-semitic none racist who tries to emulate Napoleon's polices in every aspect of German and European life. "Liberty, equality, fraternity. German Jews were already the most integrated of all Jews in Europe and Hitler tries to institute this kind of integration in the more anti semitic countries of Eastern Europe, mainly Poland, and Russia. How would you turn Hitler into the German speaking Napoleon for the 20th century?
 
You mean a German Benito Mussolini? The only ones who benefit from that kind of Nazism are the Soviets. Germany will still re-arm but do an even lousier job of it while Hitler's dependence on the Wehrmacht being overt instead of effectively hidden makes him far scarier to the West, his army itself will probably be more tactically and strategically conservative than OTL, thus it may have problems against Poland, much less France, and will never invade the USSR.
 

Titus_Pullo

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You mean a German Benito Mussolini? The only ones who benefit from that kind of Nazism are the Soviets.


No I mean a German Napoleon. He doesn't have to possess the latter's military genius, just the kind of self serving enlightened attitude about ruling an inclusive pan European empire ruled by himself and his sucessors.
 
No I mean a German Napoleon. He doesn't have to possess the latter's military genius, just the kind of self serving enlightened attitude about ruling an inclusive pan European empire ruled by himself and his sucessors.

The historical Hitler really did think he was creating that, his vision just involved the extermination of all human life in Eastern Europe save what he left as helots for his Germanic Spartiates.
 

Titus_Pullo

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You mean a German Benito Mussolini? The only ones who benefit from that kind of Nazism are the Soviets. Germany will still re-arm but do an even lousier job of it while Hitler's dependence on the Wehrmacht being overt instead of effectively hidden makes him far scarier to the West, his army itself will probably be more tactically and strategically conservative than OTL, thus it may have problems against Poland, much less France, and will never invade the USSR.


Well, is it still possible for Germany to possess the kind of revanchist fantaticism it did in otl with all the military reforms and advanced armored doctrine? Afterall France did posess the same fantaticism from 1792 to 1815 and didn't commit genocide while conquering Europe.
 

Sumeragi

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We should somehow get rid of the Dolchstoss myth. As long as that exists, Germany will almost likely to remain anti-semitic no matter who comes to power.
 
Well, is it still possible for Germany to possess the kind of revanchist fantaticism it did in otl with all the military reforms and advanced armored doctrine? Afterall France did posess the same fantaticism from 1792 to 1815 and didn't commit genocide while conquering Europe.

That's because Napoleon's era invented the kind of nationalist ideology that made genocide excusable in the first place. Massacre and rape have always been tools of warfare, they've never been considered ends in themselves until the WWII era. Without this element fascism will not be fascism.
 

Titus_Pullo

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That's because Napoleon's era invented the kind of nationalist ideology that made genocide excusable in the first place. Massacre and rape have always been tools of warfare, they've never been considered ends in themselves until the WWII era. Without this element fascism will not be fascism.


Oh dont get me wrong. I'm not saying the German army wouldn't be comitting atrocities in the name of their national cause, only to have that cause less sinister and look more like a good idea atleast on paper. Basically have Hitler forcing the rest of Europe to accept the benefits of belonging to a German Reich as "equal partners" in the European community. Notice the quotation, what is really meant by equal partners is "vassal." Which is pretty much what Napoleon's First Empire consisted of, vassal states.
 
Here's something I had been thinking could be used in a sitution like this for a while. Use the Blood Libel. Say that the blood of Christian babies used in Passover was infact a code for their purchasing or kidnapping of harder working Gentile children who would care for them while they were older, as they would not have their own inate slimeness clinging to them. Begin speaking about certain Jews who have shown that their blood had been saturated by good Germanic blood, and possibly say that some of the Jews inside Germany had been from Khazaria, and had been pushed out or by the Ottomans or went raiding on the Polish plains in the past, bringing them over to Germany. Begin having people bring up charts, and those with blonde hair and blue eyes would be deemed to have lost their Jewishness in the past, though them being Christian, aethiest, Neopagan, or agnostic would also be looked highly upon. If their family had increasingly moved away from a Jewish community they will be deemed as more acceptable. Those wishing to leave would be allowed to and insisted to.
 
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