Challenge: The revolution that overthrew the Sultan of Cuba

This is based on a weird comment I recently came across in a post-1900 thread. Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to have Cuba ruled by at least one sultan and to have at least one of them overthrown in a revolution by the present day with a POD no earlier than 1550.
 
The only thing I can think of is Spain bringing in lots of Muslim slaves, which later overthrow their Spanish rulers.

One of the leaders is proclaimed a Sultan, and is later overthrown for some reason or other...
 
A Muslim wins at Tours TL , followed by a series of raids over the space of a century that nets the Caliphate everything west of the Vistula / Carpathians ?
 
Hmm....

Ottomans winning the battle of Lepanto for the start ?

I bet Spain won't be in a very comfortable position after that... ;)
 

Thande

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Hmm....

Ottomans winning the battle of Lepanto for the start ?

I bet Spain won't be in a very comfortable position after that... ;)

Won't make much difference in the long run. The Holy League victory didn't lead to Spanish suzerainty over Morea and North Africa (as they had hoped) and an Ottoman victory would not lead to Turkish suzerainty over the Balearics and Aragon or whatever. Maybe grab the rest of the Venetian colonies, but that's it.

And it certainly won't lead to any Muslim power founding a colony in the New World.

I like Analytical Engine's idea best.
 
Won't make much difference in the long run. The Holy League victory didn't lead to Spanish suzerainty over Morea and North Africa (as they had hoped) and an Ottoman victory would not lead to Turkish suzerainty over the Balearics and Aragon or whatever. Maybe grab the rest of the Venetian colonies, but that's it.

And it certainly won't lead to any Muslim power founding a colony in the New World.

I like Analytical Engine's idea best.

I think my idea is just as hard as AE's. Mine's problem is that we can only be able to figure the most certain short term consequences only. Yes, it is unlikely that Ottoman Empire would gain anything more than Venice colonies and Naval Supremacy (;)) over the Meds just after the Battle. For anything after that it's just quite fluid. But maybe with some nearly absolutely necessary aid from the fate, perhaps it'd possible anyway.

As for AE's ideas, remember that Spain forbade it strictly any Muslim presence in their American colonies. Unless again the fate "guide" them to, Spain would never let any Mudajeras set their feet on America.
 
maybe the Spanish bring Muslim slaves over, and are ineffective at converting them to Catholicism.... so most of the new population is Muslim. over time it merges with indigenous beliefs and some elements of catholicism to create a new hybrid religion only distantly related to Islam, but the Islamic tradition remains. let's say the rest of history goes AIOTL until the late 18th / early 19th century, when Cuba and the rest of Spanish America declare independence, the [Muslimhybridreligion] slaves declare their ruler a sultan, using Islamic tradition (or at least their corrupted version of it).
 

Thande

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As for AE's ideas, remember that Spain forbade it strictly any Muslim presence in their American colonies. Unless again the fate "guide" them to, Spain would never let any Mudajeras set their feet on America.
True enough. That would have to be changed somehow.

But I can't see the Ottomans (or the Byzantines, or anyone else in that region) ever getting American colonies. Why would they bother? The main reasons for European colonisation of the Americas in OTL were

1. (1492-1500s) We've found a westward route to Japan and the East Indies!!!111

2. (1500s-1700s) Oh...wait, no we haven't. Dammit. But, maybe this continent is narrow enough for us to march across it and sail from the other side to reach Japan and the East Indies.

3. (post-1700s) No it isn't. Bugger.

The whole reason the Europeans were trying to get to Japan and the East Indies in the first place was precisely because the Ottomans held a stranglehold over many of the eastward trade routes, especially the land ones. What reason would the Ottomans have for wanting to plant a colony in America? Besides the fact that it would be even more far-flung for them than it would be for the European powers in OTL.

You could get Muslim colonial powers in America, of course (Mali before 1400 or so, perhaps Morocco later on) but Constantinople, I think, would not be one of them.
 
Castro had a tendency to be involved in 3rd world wars. Say he joins one in some islamic country (Somalia?) and the local communists give him the title Sultan as a honorary title. The name catches on. Fastforward to 1990, popular protests lead to a revolution where Castro is thrown out.
 
Castro had a tendency to be involved in 3rd world wars. Say he joins one in some islamic country (Somalia?) and the local communists give him the title Sultan as a honorary title. The name catches on. Fastforward to 1990, popular protests lead to a revolution where Castro is thrown out.
I really doubt that, considering that Communists were very anti-imperialist and Sultan is a imperial title. Of course that may cause Castro to be thrown out... But hes not stupid, so the massive Spanish Muslim deportation idea sounds good.

Maybe they realise that America isn't the route to the Indies so its worthless? So America becomes what the outback was to the British. A place to put in people you didn't like. And if Spain doesn't concentrate on the Americas its very likely they would have gone for Northern Africa. Cuba is held as a foothold, and the Muslim prisoners are sent to Cuba?
 
How about Spain feels reason to expand into Morrocco, and after many bloody wars, dominates most of North Africa. Spanish settlers begin colonizing the North African colonies, and Muslims are deported to the 'backwater' American colonies. The Muslims rise up and form several Emirates and Sultanates, with the largest being Cuba. The Spanish later return, and begin their reconquest of their colonies by overthrowing the Cuban sultan.
 
As for AE's ideas, remember that Spain forbade it strictly any Muslim presence in their American colonies. Unless again the fate "guide" them to, Spain would never let any Mudajeras set their feet on America.

They forbade Muslim colonists or colonists with Muslim background, yes... but slaves weren't considered colonists, and this actually caused some "problems" in ealier dates:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_Dominican_Republic#Slave_Revolt_of_1522
 
I really doubt that, considering that Communists were very anti-imperialist and Sultan is a imperial title. Of course that may cause Castro to be thrown out

I don't think he gets thrown out due to a honorary title. So let's change my initial idea, his opponents uses the title against him.
 
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