Challenge: Most likely map after Napoleonic Victory

[yourworstnightmare]

Interesting! And I thought Kalmar Union 2.0, IF it ever happens, would not come to pass until much later, say somewhat early in the 20th century. But you suggest that it would happen during the reign of Napoleon I, at least a century earlier than I would anticipate such a development.

Before Bernadotte was appointed crown prince, the Danish prince Karl August was actually Crown Prince for a while, but he suddenly died, leaving the succession open. Karl August had supported a Scandinavian alliance with three separate kingdoms under the same dynasty (i.e. not under the same monarch, but all being of the House Oldenburg).

The French would never allow Bernadotte to keep the Swedish throne, since he was considered a traitor. The Danes on the other hand were allies, and would definitely get Norway back in a Napoleonic victory scenario. With Sweden lacking a monarch, binding them to the House of Oldenburg might not be far fetched at all.

 

[Faeelin]

attached... not a napoleonic victory per se... but something i've toyed with for a while... Its a bonapartist France negotiated settlement.

Fascinating. The presence of Hanover suggests a strong surviving British position, no?

 

[Thande]

Fascinating. The presence of Hanover suggests a strong surviving British position, no?

It might be Hanover under another dynasty, e.g. Napoleonic relative #2344214.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

It might be Hanover under another dynasty, e.g. Napoleonic relative #2344214.

actually its a junior branch of Hannover. there is still the general restorationist agenda. But with the Bonapartist regime in France still in control of most of its Empire and a better position for some of its German allies, notably Saxony of course. the Wars are longer but exhaustion eventually takes its toll.

Prussia is generally restored with the exception of Silesia, there are two branches though. Because of their initial complete partition they have not played the significant role that they played..its been largely the Russians and the Austrians ( or in the latter case a desire for a rapprochement with the Tsar that Europe can live with and peace with Britain on equitable terms( there are mitigating circumstances that make Britain more amenable, and the Continental system is ended doesn't hurt.) that and they scoop practically all the Dutch and French. As mentioned earlier there is the temporary continuance of the Polish Saxon personal union, but that will end during the next decade.

though I am thinking to have the Cape Republic restored to the stadholder and under British protection, seeing as how Louis stays as King of Holland/Netherlands. In much the same way that the French Bourbons will end up under largely Spanish protection (outside mainland France of course)..and can anyone think where that might be to stick their thumb in the eye of the Bonapartists? Mind you I expect it would be small consolation of course to Louis XVIII and the Duke of Artois. However, they like the stadtholder, the Pope, and the Savoyards are casualties of the peace.

 

[Višeslav]

So, here's the sequel of my previous map, this time around 1850.

Essentially, Prussia, Austria, and Austria failed to conserve the balance in Europe. In 1830, Spain returned under French control; in 1848, the monarchy in Prussia fell permitting to the German Federation to invade the country; Russia and Austria intervened but without Britain (which remained neutral) failed miserably, making so to return to the 1813 borders for the French block, freeing also Poland. However, the French Empire annexed in that period only Catalonia and bought from Spain Puerto Rico, the colonies in the Cameron Bay area, and the island of Mindanao ( in order to counterbalance the British power in these areas), while relinquished to Holland pre-1783 borders. Italy under the Murat Dynasty meanwhile occupied Sardinia and Sicily, and in the war towards Austria also Dalmatia, Trantin and Istria. Germany annexed South Tirol and the lands West of the Oder ( all of Prussia East of the river went to Poland).

Britain then searched alliance with USA, ceding all of the Oregon territory.

Greece and Portugal also seeked protection from the British Empire.

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I like the borders on this map. Most of them make sense for a complete victory. Poland's a little too big (some of that would be German, there might be an east Prussian state), but British Indonesia is something people often overlook in these scenarios.