Challenge: Iranian Stalin and Italian Hitler

Is it possible for Stalin to be kidnapped and smuggled away to Iran as a child or his parents migrate with him to Iran instead of going to Russia and Hitler kidnapped and smuggled away to Italy or Hitler and his parents go to Italy and become italian citizens.

The POD is before 1900.

Bonus Points if Hitler becomes a cardinal or pope and Stalin becomes an Ayatollah.

I made a thread about Hitler being an Italian earlier, I thought it would be cool if I expand the idea.
 
I don't know why Stalin would be an ayatollah, if he gets kidnapped chances are he's separated from that Georgian nun mother who pressured him to be a priest OTL.
 
Is it possible for Stalin to be kidnapped and smuggled away to Iran as a child or his parents migrate with him to Iran instead of going to Russia and Hitler kidnapped and smuggled away to Italy or Hitler and his parents go to Italy and become italian citizens.

The POD is before 1900.

Bonus Points if Hitler becomes a cardinal or pope and Stalin becomes an Ayatollah.

I made a thread about Hitler being an Italian earlier, I thought it would be cool if I expand the idea.

*sigh*I thought this was going to be establishing a Italian version of Hitler
Basically a more effective anti-semetic Mussolini
And a Stalinist In Iran, wouldn"t have to be communist but massive industrialization and a cult of personality, as well as having him take part in a revolution of any kind. However all I found was...this.
 
That Stalin originaly was working to become a monk, and so took the training, i knew.. but, a defroked nun as a mother? is it true?
 

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That Stalin originaly was working to become a monk, and so took the training, i knew.. but, a defroked nun as a mother? is it true?

It's not, she was just super religious and on her deathbed said that he should have chosen priest over dictator.
 
It would seem better off to have analogues of a Hitler-figure in Italy, and a Stalin-figure in Iran, than trying to transplant them into foreign environments.

A more anti-semitic Italian fascism, combined with a less anti-semitic Nazi-analogue in Germany might be an interesting scenario. Any Holocaust would probably end up smaller scale.
 
Is it possible for Stalin to be kidnapped and smuggled away to Iran as a child or his parents migrate with him to Iran instead of going to Russia and Hitler kidnapped and smuggled away to Italy or Hitler and his parents go to Italy and become italian citizens.

The POD is before 1900.

Bonus Points if Hitler becomes a cardinal or pope and Stalin becomes an Ayatollah.

I made a thread about Hitler being an Italian earlier, I thought it would be cool if I expand the idea.

Umm anything is possible, I suppose but they would be entirely different people so far removed from their real life counter parts that it wouldn't really matter.
 
Is it possible for Stalin to be kidnapped and smuggled away to Iran as a child or his parents migrate with him to Iran instead of going to Russia and Hitler kidnapped and smuggled away to Italy or Hitler and his parents go to Italy and become italian citizens.

the main question would be why would they Go there?

I'm not going to bother with the Kidnapping Scenario, because that seems very unlikely.

I don't see why a Drunken Cobbler and a Fairly Devoted Orthodox peasant Family are going to move to Iran of all places.

Likewise, Why would a German Family got to Italy?
the USA would probably be more appealing as a Chance for a Better Life.
 
Like I said before have Italian Hitler and a Iranian Stalin
A Italian who becomes Anti-Semetic and manages to create Italian Nazism, probablly less succesful then Germany.
Iranian Stalin A young boy irreligious boy who takes part in a revolution and is able to take over and turn Iran into a superpower.
Now that"s interesting.
 
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