Just a fun little idea I've been thinking about.
There are tons of threads about alternate Israels and other ATL countries that post-diaspora Jews could call their home. But there's one other common Euroamerican nation that is similarly the result of a (relatively) recent diaspora from Asia and is without its own country - the Romani.
So...
Let's say that, in contrast to OTL, a political/cultural movement in favour of permanent settlement emerges among the migrating Romani ethnicities during the early modern era. This movement is led by a small but growing ATL class of Roma nobility and scholars, who were inspired by the majority cultures (European, other Asian) they met during their travels, assimilating a lot of their ideas into their own pool of knowledge and customs. These higher-ups become advocates of abandoning a nomadic lifestyle and permanently settling an area viable as an independent country that they could govern themselves.
The movement is succesful and seems trustworthy enough to the older inhabitants of the continents the Roma frequent, so they eventually agree to grant the Roma some larger territory that has been deemed not economically exclusive enough or has been depopulated by an epidemic or war. The Roma agree and gradually settle there en masse (with only some of their populations on the specific continent sticking to a nomadic life). A country is eventually formed and becomes a proper nation state with its own unique mix of Romani and local traditions (in politics, culture, art, etc.). As already hinted at, this country can be located anywhere in Europe, Asia, Central America and South America*. (Even North America could maybe work, but I think it's less probable than the southern continents.)
So, where could this country be located and what events could lead to the granting of its land to this ATL settler movement ?
Though the scenario focuses primarily on a country founded by nomadic/migrating Roma, you can also found the country in northwestern India (particularly somewhere around Kashmir, in the general area of the nation's ancestral homeland). Also, their ATL nation state doesn't need to be Roma-exclusive by any means, they should just have an ethnic majority (at least 60 %). I'm thinking a reasonably multicultural country could work fairly well. A good OTL example is Suriname and Guyana, where most of the people are of Indian** ancestry (majority population), then black, mullato and local native ancestry (minorities).
(* - In OTL, some South American countries have a surprising number of descendants of Roma emigrants. Particularly Colombia.
** - This makes a South American Roma-majority state a fairly realistic choice, IMHO.)
P. S. Spare me of the jokes about Latveria or stereotypical fortune tellers. While this is a more lighthearted POD idea, I want to keep it realistic and serious enough.
There are tons of threads about alternate Israels and other ATL countries that post-diaspora Jews could call their home. But there's one other common Euroamerican nation that is similarly the result of a (relatively) recent diaspora from Asia and is without its own country - the Romani.
So...
Let's say that, in contrast to OTL, a political/cultural movement in favour of permanent settlement emerges among the migrating Romani ethnicities during the early modern era. This movement is led by a small but growing ATL class of Roma nobility and scholars, who were inspired by the majority cultures (European, other Asian) they met during their travels, assimilating a lot of their ideas into their own pool of knowledge and customs. These higher-ups become advocates of abandoning a nomadic lifestyle and permanently settling an area viable as an independent country that they could govern themselves.
The movement is succesful and seems trustworthy enough to the older inhabitants of the continents the Roma frequent, so they eventually agree to grant the Roma some larger territory that has been deemed not economically exclusive enough or has been depopulated by an epidemic or war. The Roma agree and gradually settle there en masse (with only some of their populations on the specific continent sticking to a nomadic life). A country is eventually formed and becomes a proper nation state with its own unique mix of Romani and local traditions (in politics, culture, art, etc.). As already hinted at, this country can be located anywhere in Europe, Asia, Central America and South America*. (Even North America could maybe work, but I think it's less probable than the southern continents.)
So, where could this country be located and what events could lead to the granting of its land to this ATL settler movement ?
Though the scenario focuses primarily on a country founded by nomadic/migrating Roma, you can also found the country in northwestern India (particularly somewhere around Kashmir, in the general area of the nation's ancestral homeland). Also, their ATL nation state doesn't need to be Roma-exclusive by any means, they should just have an ethnic majority (at least 60 %). I'm thinking a reasonably multicultural country could work fairly well. A good OTL example is Suriname and Guyana, where most of the people are of Indian** ancestry (majority population), then black, mullato and local native ancestry (minorities).
(* - In OTL, some South American countries have a surprising number of descendants of Roma emigrants. Particularly Colombia.
** - This makes a South American Roma-majority state a fairly realistic choice, IMHO.)
P. S. Spare me of the jokes about Latveria or stereotypical fortune tellers. While this is a more lighthearted POD idea, I want to keep it realistic and serious enough.
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