Challenge: Improve Dieppe

MacCaulay

Banned
I don't care how you do it. Just get the 2nd Canadian Infantry Division, the Royal Commandos and Rangers back in one piece from the Dieppe operation on August 19th, 1942.

When the landing force got back to England from Operation Jubilee, over 5,000 soldiers were POWs or KIA on the shore in France. The 2 brigades of the 2nd Canadian Infantry Division had to be rebuilt.

Your mission is to change that and make Dieppe...if not a resounding success, then at least not the astounding failure that it was.
 
I don't care how you do it. Just get the 2nd Canadian Infantry Division, the Royal Commandos and Rangers back in one piece from the Dieppe operation on August 19th, 1942.

When the landing force got back to England from Operation Jubilee, over 5,000 soldiers were POWs or KIA on the shore in France. The 2 brigades of the 2nd Canadian Infantry Division had to be rebuilt.

Your mission is to change that and make Dieppe...if not a resounding success, then at least not the astounding failure that it was.

ok mate, how bout if we start with addressing the OTL shortcoming which contributed to the magnitude of the disaster ? Let's say- more RAF air support, use of battlefships & heavy cruisers to provide sustained shore bombardment, employment of paratroopers in airborne drop to take coastal batteries, utilisation of better tanks than Churchills- all of these improments would've defntly improved the preps for JUBILEE, which woukd;'ve facilitated some better outcome...
 
Also it can be a good thing for the landing force, if the operation is launched the 8th of July (as it was initially planned).
In this case german defenses would be weaker.
 

Sior

Banned
ok mate, how bout if we start with addressing the OTL shortcoming which contributed to the magnitude of the disaster ? Let's say- more RAF air support, use of battlefships & heavy cruisers to provide sustained shore bombardment, employment of paratroopers in airborne drop to take coastal batteries, utilisation of better tanks than Churchills- all of these improments would've defntly improved the preps for JUBILEE, which woukd;'ve facilitated some better outcome...

I agree with every thing you said except about the Churchill Mk1’s used at Dieppe, yes they tended to be unreliable in inexperienced hands, but it was the shingle beach and sea wall the prevented them from being effective.
Some of the Mk 1’s were also converted to flamethrowers but were bogged down by the shingle.
Infact it was Dieppe that leads to Hobart’s Funnies that proved successful at D-Day.
If Bobbins and Ark’s AVRE had been invented then the tank’s would have roamed the town!
 
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