Challenge: How can this map become a reality?

Your mission is to make this map a reality with a POD after Jan. 1, 1901. Blue is the Intermarum Federation. Magenta is the USSR/Russia. Purple is the European Union. Orange is the United Kingdom. Red is the Germanic Reich. Yellow is the Union of Denmark and Sweden. Pink is the rump Norway. Brown is Iberia. Light Blue is Israel. Yellow-Green is the Istanbul Caliphate. Tan is the Cairo Caliphate. Grey is Iceland. Green is Ireland.
Please do not invoke the ASBs. Feel free to use developments outside of this map to influence events.

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As Magnificate says, most of this stuff has borders that were determined well after 1900. The Belorusian and Ukrainian east boundaries, for example, cut across both the old governates and the amorphous dialectual mess that was the East Slavs in 1917, because the Soviets drew them on. So let's not even start on Kaliningrad and the Oder-Neisse line...

Yeah, seriously, there's a self-proclaimed, powerful German reich and the Russians have still managed to manage to nab Koenigsberg? That is ASB. You can't ask me not to use them
 
No way to realistically achieve it without invoking the ASBs, there are just too many random unions and anachronistic borders.

BTW, you're from Poland?

My parents are.
If you can't do it realistically, be unrealistic. Many other unlikely things have happened in OTL.

BTW, it's OK if you alter small portions of the map, i.e. give Silesia to the Reich or North Ireland to England. Just make something generally like this map.
 
BTW, it's OK if you alter small portions of the map, i.e. give Silesia to the Reich or North Ireland to England. Just make something generally like this map.
Small adjustments wouldn't be enough, you would still have to explain:
- Two randomid caliphates encompassing random nations. (How did north Africa united? How did "Istambul" get their hands on Serbia and Bulgaria?)
- Why would weakened Soviet Union manage such gains in Scandinavia?
- Just how can you pull off a Germanic Empire (with Switzeland (!) and Croatia (?)) without them shattering the Międzymorze?
- Iberian and and Denmark-Sweden spontaneously uniting.

It might not be strictly impossible, but I don't have enough creativity to come up with a proper scenario. ;)
 
I have an idea...

Note: I'm not necessarily a veteran at this: I amke make up one or two things

Here's how it could possibly start: Wilhelm II dies of a sudden and unexpected cancer. Like his predecessor, he dies and the barely 18-year-old Wilhelm III ascends the throne. Nervous, he surrounds himself with people he feels he can trust. Fortunately, one of these people is a completely unknown person at the time: an Austrian by the name of Kramer Hitler (Note: A fctional Character), uncle to Austrian Adolf. Through his maneuverings as well as a return to a more Bismarkian style of politics, Germany starts to keep other nations off-balance politically. Meanwhile, Kramer Hitler plots with Austrian Archduke Franz Ferdinand about a possible Pan-Germanic alliance. ALl that stands in the way is Wilhelm III...

I'll probably come up with some more...give me some time
 
I have an idea...

Note: I'm not necessarily a veteran at this: I amke make up one or two things

Here's how it could possibly start: Wilhelm II dies of a sudden and unexpected cancer. Like his predecessor, he dies and the barely 18-year-old Wilhelm III ascends the throne. Nervous, he surrounds himself with people he feels he can trust. Fortunately, one of these people is a completely unknown person at the time: an Austrian by the name of Kramer Hitler (Note: A fctional Character), uncle to Austrian Adolf. Through his maneuverings as well as a return to a more Bismarkian style of politics, Germany starts to keep other nations off-balance politically. Meanwhile, Kramer Hitler plots with Austrian Archduke Franz Ferdinand about a possible Pan-Germanic alliance. ALl that stands in the way is Wilhelm III...

I'll probably come up with some more...give me some time
Thank you for making an effort at explaining this.
 
Sorry for Konigsburg. Stupid mistake. I tried to fix it and the old German-Polish border. Hope it's better.

Good effort, but there are two problems. One is that that border is still visibly wrong: you need a prewar basemap. Anotter is that I only brought up Koenigsberg because it was obvious. There's still the Ukrainian-Belorussian squiggle, and of course the entire Balkans. Remember that the Balkan war hadn't happened in 1900. Nothing is determined, least of all Tito's Montenegro.

Basically, I think you need to hang around the map thread for a while, absorb some venerable wisdom, and most of all, keep trying!
 
No way to realistically achieve it without invoking the ASBs, there are just too many random unions and anachronistic borders.

BTW, you're from Poland?

That's what I thought when I saw super Polish-Lithulania. (BTW, my grandparents are also Polish)

I don't think it's too unfeasible... Let's see...


US doesn't get involved with WWI, and takes more of a paficist tone.

Germany wins WWI (and the Kaiser is still in power), and combines a unified empire with Hungary. Croatia goes to Germany, Serbia and all points south go to the Caliphate. Germany annexes the Russian enclave (exclave?) by Poland as retribution. Other territorial concessions are also made for peace.

Britain was the most successful in the war, and had troops in Israel, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon. They strike a two-part deal with the Caliphate (who lost tons of money in the war). Since Britain lost the war, they will leave the area in exchange for Israel's independance, and give X amount of gold to the Caliphate.

Great Britain never passes the Government of Ireland Act (instead, different ways to resolve the internal strife are found).

Eastern Europe is initially conquered by the Soviets, including Finland.

Norway becomes one of the Soviet's proxy wars and is in a Civil War (north 'wins', and becomes communist).

Sweden/Denmark form the Scandanavian League, hoping to rebuff the Soviets.

France, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourgh, and Italy form a European Union after the Great Depression in the 30s as a western bloc against increasing Soviet-German tension.

Spain goes into a civil war. Facist Spain wins out against Communist Spain, and also conquers Portugal (tries to conquer Morroco, too). An Egyptian Caliphate forms in the 1970s to guard against powerful northern countries.

Between the 1940s, and 1980s, where WWII and the Cold War was supposed to have been, there is more of a regional cold war (nukes aren't as developed, and technology hasn't flourished as much due to lack of competition between superpowers), but there is another near economic depression, and the Eastern European states, led by Poland's Solidarity movement (had to get that in there! :D), breaks away from Russia, forming a greater Polish-Lithulanian state.
 
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That's what I thought when I saw super Polish-Lithulania. (BTW, my grandparents are also Polish)

I don't think it's too unfeasible... Let's see...

Uh, yes, it is. We've said why.

US doesn't get involved with WWI, and takes more of a paficist tone.

Germany wins WWI (and the Kaiser is still in power), and combines a unified empire with Hungary.

They why does France have Alsace, Luxembourg exist, Denmark have north-Schleswig, and Poland have something supposed to vaguelly resemble its interwar western boundary? And why would Germany annex Hungary?

Croatia goes to Germany, Serbia and all points south go to the Caliphate.

So the Ottomans just started re-conquering the nationally-conscious states of the Balkans, including ally Bulgaria, for teh lulz?

Germany annexes the Russian enclave (exclave?) by Poland as retribution. Other territorial concessions are also made for peace.

ARRRRRRRRRRGH!

That's goddamn Koenigsberg and the reason its a goddamn Russian exclave rather than a goddamn German exclave is because Stalin murdered or expelled the inhabitants, shipped in some Russians, and named it after an obscure Bolshevik! Look at a map of 1914, why dont you? Or 1939, even?

Ahem. Sorry.

Britain was the most successful in the war, and had troops in Israel, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon. They strike a two-part deal with the Caliphate (who lost tons of money in the war). Since Britain lost the war, they will leave the area in exchange for Israel's independance, and give X amount of gold to the Caliphate.

One slight problem: not enough Jews. They mostly came after WW1.

Great Britain never passes the Government of Ireland Act (instead, different ways to resolve the internal strife are found).

Such as?

Eastern Europe is initially conquered by the Soviets, including Finland.

I guess Germany fell asleep on duty?

Norway becomes one of the Soviet's proxy wars and is in a Civil War (north 'wins', and becomes communist).

Why?

Sweden/Denmark form the Scandanavian League, hoping to rebuff the Soviets.

Since this is contingent on the above happening... why?

France, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourgh, and Italy form a European Union after the Great Depression in the 30s as a western bloc against increasing Soviet-German tension.

What Luxembourg? You mean that federal state of Germany?

What Belgium? You mean those two puny German vassal states?

And why would a state so thoroughly attached to the German bloc as the Netherlands ally with France?

In short, if Germany won WW1, why aren't they behaving like they have?
Spain goes into a civil war. Facist Spain wins out against Communist Spain, and also conquers Portugal (tries to conquer Morroco, too). An Egyptian Caliphate forms in the 1970s to guard against powerful northern countries.

Between the 1940s, and 1980s, where WWII and the Cold War was supposed to have been, there is more of a regional cold war (nukes aren't as developed, and technology hasn't flourished as much due to lack of competition between superpowers), but there is another near economic depression, and the Eastern European states, led by Poland's Solidarity movement (had to get that in there! :D), breaks away from Russia, forming a greater Polish-Lithulanian state.

Why? I mean, Poland and Lithuania are going to have some unresolved issues going on over Wilno/Vilnius, and without WW2, it seems unlikely that the East Slavic nations will ever break apart, much less two of them subordinate themselves to Poland.
 
Also:

Germanic Reich?

That's a German Reich on your map. There's a difference.

EDIT: My scenario:

WWI turns out really weird. The Ottomans stay out, maintaining their empire. Russia loses less badly, it keeps Finland and the Baltics. While Communism does arise, it is contained in the western part; Romania and Poland soon after go Red, and, in true international spirit, federalize with West Russia.

A succession crisis in Denmark-Norway occurs, with the Russian tsar (somehow) one of the claimants. In the ensuing chaos, Denmark and Sweden enter union, while half of Norway goes to Russia and the other half (as well as Iceland) is independent.

A small *WWII breaks out, mostly confined to Germany and France. France offers Germany a deal: let us keep Alsace-Lorraine, and we'll let you annex Switzerland, Austria, Hungar, and Czechoslovakia. Part of this is to help contain the Red Menace; part of it is a joke. The Germans accept.

A Turkish revolution revitalizes the empire. Turkey conquers Persia, and divides the Balkans with Germany. (France and Britain want Germany to hold off the Intermarium, but not be too powerful itself.) To this end, they band most of Western Europe into the European Union; the colonies are lumped together into one globe-spanning space-filling empire. When the Turkish ruler claims the Caliphate of Istanbul, the leader of the SFE claims the Caliphate of Cairo.

Iberia united while nobody was looking, and a war between Russia and Turkey led to the transfer of Armenia and southern Azerbaijan. Israel is a dependency of Turkey, and Ireland never got partitioned.

Iberia has just lost the Baelarics to the SFE.

EDIT: And this wasn't supposed to be plausible--just not too implausible.
 
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with that borders, impossible. But in the XVI, Iberia was so close to be unified and France wanted Italy (they lost Naples by their own mistakes, and after that, they could get Milan and who knows, the rest of Italy) and the Low Countrys, but.... no it´s so difficult
 
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