Challenge:Dominant Occitania and mostly Francophone England and Ireland

What is a dominant Occitania? Do you mean it is dominant over Southern France, or that its dominant over all of France, or that its dominant over England and Ireland ?

Maybe the Albigensian Crusade doesn't happen, or perhaps they get their asses handed to them ?


Best Regards
Grey Wolf
 
What is a dominant Occitania? Do you mean it is dominant over Southern France, or that its dominant over all of France, or that its dominant over England and Ireland ?

Maybe the Albigensian Crusade doesn't happen, or perhaps they get their asses handed to them ?


Best Regards
Grey Wolf

I mean that Occitan maintains it's prestige and linguafranca status while England and Ireland become mostly French or Oil speaking
 
What is a dominant Occitania? Do you mean it is dominant over Southern France, or that its dominant over all of France, or that its dominant over England and Ireland ?

Maybe the Albigensian Crusade doesn't happen, or perhaps they get their asses handed to them ?


Best Regards
Grey Wolf

Or perhaps butterfly cathars first.
 
I think the crusades are too late.
You'd have to go way back and have a romance language surviving in England from the get go I'd think; just look to the Low Countries. A Germanic language under French domination and with France right on its doorstep yet it did't lose TOO much of its range. England has the added protection of the sea stopping simple population movements and slowing natural flow too.
If England was speaking Brittanic and we have something called French still popping up in France then a French conquest of England could well lead to a language shift with it being similar but with English in place I don't see it happening.
 
I think the crusades are too late.
You'd have to go way back and have a romance language surviving in England from the get go I'd think; just look to the Low Countries. A Germanic language under French domination and with France right on its doorstep yet it did't lose TOO much of its range. England has the added protection of the sea stopping simple population movements and slowing natural flow too.
If England was speaking Brittanic and we have something called French still popping up in France then a French conquest of England could well lead to a language shift with it being similar but with English in place I don't see it happening.

but how can a romance langauge survive in england in the first place?
 
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