Challenge. Create a Backstory for the Map in the theard

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ok guys. see this map? I want you to create a backstory for this map. timeline or whatever you call it. that lasts from 1933-2011.


Keys.

Blue - United States
Red - Nazi Germany


a few things I want to say first. dont make The US a empire. create a situation in which Canada and Mexico (and Panama) and in danger. a danger that could hurt the US. so the US annexes them to protect them.


and Hitler does not die in 1945 in this timeline (however you may make it). make it more like 1965-1980 when he dies. k


good luck
 
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and Hitler does not die in 1945 in this timeline (however you may make it). make it more like 1965-1980 when he dies. k


good luck


This bit isn't possible. Hitler had late stage Parkinsons (or some other disease of the sort) by 1945, and certainly isn't going to survive the 50s, perhaps not even the 40s.

Also, some of you're borders are far to convergent. Hitler wanted to annex Ukraine, but he didn't want colonies, or Russia east of Siberia. South Africa may have been brutally racist, but they hated the Nazis, and as apparently Britain and Australia aren't part of the Nazi Empire, there's no way that South Africa will be, particularly as isolated as they are.

Equally, the Nazis had effectively zilch capacity for landing troops in the Americas- the only friendly land there was Vichy France held Guiane- and with that being America's back yard, you're not going to have places like Cuba ruled directly by such a hostile power. Puppet status is unlikely as well, given that the Nazis don't really have an ideaology that the Cubans or Guyanans will find attractive.

Turning to America, North Korea only is bonkers, that border is simply a ceasfire line in a Civil War. If the North is held by America, so will the south. And if they've got Korea, they'll have the Philippines as well for sure which seems an odd ommision from the map.

I would suggest you go over to Books and media. There's a whole thread of maps showing what Hitler actually wanted.
 
well this is my first time making this kind of thing. so I had some mistakes.


let"s say in this timeline. Hitler was in Early Stage Parkinson's in 1945. possibly allowing him to life to alest the 50s if not the 60s. and lets say in this timeline. Hitler was grooming his son with Eva. to take over the Nazi regime.


gave America South Korea and the Phililpines. so good luck making the timeline guys.
 

Solroc

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Kind of difficult to speculate.

I see France seems to be free, did Operation Overlord happen? I'm guessing the U.S took care of Japan as IOTL, seeing as the Americans have Korea. And if Germany owns European Russia, a successful Operation Barborossa means the USSR is definitely crippled, if not non-existent.
 
Kind of difficult to speculate.

I see France seems to be free, did Operation Overlord happen? I'm guessing the U.S took care of Japan as IOTL, seeing as the Americans have Korea. And if Germany owns European Russia, a successful Operation Barborossa means the USSR is definitely crippled, if not non-existent.


I figure in this timeline. that Hitler never wanted France. seeing Serbian Russia as a more valued target. I also figure that the USSR still controls the remaining non Nazi land of OTL Russia. but is in a weak economic state. and being attacked from all sides.

I figure yes that America took care of them as in Original Timeline. yep .


I figure that The Hitlers are still in control of Nazi Germany. with Hitler"s grandson in control in this timeline's 2011. however I cant really figure out
how to make this timeline ehh. idk make sense? can you guys keep weighing in?
 
i think this could be a combination of the Fatherland and Newt Gingrich 1945 worlds. a world where the US and Japan fought a war between 1941-45 and gets into a cold war with Germany after the Pacific war.

if that happens, the nations would line up something like this

US and allies:

USA
Canada
Mexico
Japan
Russia
Korea
China

Berlin Pact Nations:
Germany
France
Britain
Spain
Italy
 
US takes Canada in ARW, Mexico in Mex-Amer War. takes korea in 18??'s in its time line

Germany wins WW2. in its time line

A random ASB Isots the two from their Timelines to a Third Timeline where WW2 never happened.
 
I wonder why Norway and Finland is not part of the Nazi empire, but Denmark is?



It seems like im coming up with all the ideas in this.


my guess is that Norway and Sweden are not concorqued yet. but the Nazi's and the Nowway-Sweden army are in a guerila war spanning from the 70s to the present day. and none of the UN nations have been able to stop it.


and I figured something more like the Nazi's thearts or possible attacks made USA take Canada and Mexico. but ARW and Mexican War Acquistions sound better.
 
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