I doubt the Russians are going to have a say in it. Or are you saying Russia would remain a monarchy?
Challenge: Chetnik Yugoslavia
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Yes, but Nicholas II has to abdicate. For example - After abdication, the revolution was stifled and a major reform began and the introduction of parliamentary democracy began. Or, Russia turns into some kind of autocratic republic, but prowestern and capitalist one.
Grand Duke Nikolai or Cyril will probably become Tsar but I doubt that Russian democracy will last long into the Great Depression if the Whites win the Russian Civil War.
https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...hetnik-yugoslavia.443456/page-4#post-17213217
I like what @Court Jester recommended here and wanted to know - what would would the Chetniks look like if ORJUNA's ideologies had become the primary ideology for them?
I like what @Court Jester recommended here and wanted to know - what would would the Chetniks look like if ORJUNA's ideologies had become the primary ideology for them?
For starters early alliance with partisans would be difficult as they were already fighting and killing eachother before ORJUNA was banned and if due to POD it wasn't, it would have continued with such acts, resulting in mutual hostility. However ORJUNA's hostility towards fascist would probably result in their resistance starting before 22.6.1941, so many people who would have otherwise joined the Partisans would join the ORJUNA resistance instead.
Another question is what would ORJUNA be like in 1941, it was still a young organisation when it was banned and decade of evolution before the war could change it a lot, giving the writer considerable freedom at framing it's structure and actions. However there is not much historical data about it, as Yugoslavian historians didn't really bother with it, beyond mentioning them as cause of martyrdom of several communists between the two wars.
Another question is what would ORJUNA be like in 1941, it was still a young organisation when it was banned and decade of evolution before the war could change it a lot, giving the writer considerable freedom at framing it's structure and actions. However there is not much historical data about it, as Yugoslavian historians didn't really bother with it, beyond mentioning them as cause of martyrdom of several communists between the two wars.
Let's say Mihailovic accepts ORJUNA's ideology instead of the ones proposed by the Serbian Cultural Club - how does this affect the Chetniks?
If we consider 1941 POD, given decentralized nature of the Chetniks, I'd say it would lead to unofficial split at first, with some commanders acknowledging Mihajlovic's orders, while others would ignore them, with disobeying commanders eventually opposing him openly. It would mean stronger Chetnik movement in Slovenia and in it could mean that some Croats would join these pro-Mihajlovic chetniks.
I doubt there would be much organisational difference, with very autonomous local leaders do as they please. So once Ustashe start mass murdering Serbs, it's quite likely the local commanders would retaliate by massacring Croat villages. In Dalmatia and Istria however their anti Italian bent might attract many volunteers for their side making them prevalent force there and more relevant in Slovenia (especially if they connect with TIGR remnants), as long as they don't noticabely negotiate with Germans and Italians.
How would this affect the Allies' relations with the Chetniks?
With the elements of Chetniks loyal to Mihailovic being more agressive against the occupying forces would mean that they would retain Allied support, but there is still the issue of Soviets getting there first.
Would the Chetniks be able to liberate Yugoslavia or would it fall under the occupation of the USSR? If she remains free, I see a Greek-style civil war happening.
What happens to Dijas and his new class idea? Maybe make him, a democratic socialist instead of a marxist?