Challenge: As many Christian Patriarchates as possible

mrmandias

Hmm.

One intriguing way would be for Protestantism to be associated with creating new Patriarchates for their churches. So you'd have the Lutheran German Patriarch, the Swiss/Franco-Dutch Calvinist Patriarch, the Anglican Patriarch . . . probably some Scandinavian Lutheran Patriarchs.
 

basileus

Well, beyond the Ancient Big Fives of Jerusalem, Antioch, Alexandria, Rome and Constantinople, you could add Carthage for example. In later times Salzburg, Canterbury (later Anglican), Reims, Toledo, Moscow, Pec (raised by Serbs in a moment of megalomania), Ohrid (the Bulgarian answer); Ani, later at Etchmiatzin (Armenian); Mossul (Assyrian/Nestorian) and Baghdad (Chaldean); then the Protestant Patriarchates at Magdeburg, Lund and Geneva, later joined by North American Patriarchates at Hartford, Connecticut (Puritan, open to other Protestant denominations), New York (Catholic) and Montgomery, Alabama (Baptist); Catholic Latin American Patriarchates at Mexico City, Panama, Lima, Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires. A Catholic Indian Patriarchate at Goa, another for East Asia at Manila, and an Anglican one in Christchurch for the Pacific. In Africa Catholic Patriarchates in Abidjan and Lagos and an Anglican one at Durban.
 
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Md139115

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Keep Christianity together (i.e. no Great Schism and Protestant Reformation) and have a few more created by the original 5 in order to better control the faith as it spreads outside the Mediterranean (say Aachen, Canterbury, Santiago, and Moscow), then have the nations that miss out (France and Hungary start coming to mind) start complaining, fighting, withholding aid from crusades, etc. so they get one, then have some border changes so nations get 2 or 3 such that the others demand more, and finally have everyone throw their hands up and declare that whoever runs a national church, no matter how small, would be a patriarch (instead of the Catholic Primate).

Then have the New World get discovered...
 
The Professor

The Professor

I think you need the First Council of Nicaea (or something like it if Constantine fails) to explicitly set out the hierarchy and authority of bishops rather than just recognising the traditional authority of sees of Rome, Antioch, and Alexandria.
 

CountDVB

Maybe as the Catholics push against the Orthodox, most end up fleeing to the New World and establish new Patriarch churches there
 
Tomislav Addai

Tomislav Addai

basileus said:
Well, beyond the Ancient Big Fives of Jerusalem, Antioch, Alexandria, Rome and Constantinople, you could add Carthage for example. In later times Salzburg, Canterbury (later Anglican), Reims, Toledo, Moscow, Pec (raised by Serbs in a moment of megalomania), Ohrid (the Bulgarian answer); Ani, later at Etchmiatzin (Armenian); Mossul (Assyrian/Nestorian) and Baghdad (Chaldean); then the Protestant Patriarchates at Magdeburg, Lund and Geneva, later joined by North American Patriarchates at Hartford, Connecticut (Puritan, open to other Protestant denominations), New York (Catholic) and Montgomery, Alabama (Baptist); Catholic Latin American Patriarchates at Mexico City, Panama, Lima, Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires. A Catholic Indian Patriarchate at Goa, another for East Asia at Manila, and an Anglican one in Christchurch for the Pacific. In Africa Catholic Patriarchates in Abidjan and Lagos and an Anglican one at Durban.
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That really deserves a map
 

Francisco Cojuanco

Tomislav Addai said:
As tge title suggests, create as many Christian Patriarchates as possible, doesn't have to involve only the Mediterranean.
Maps welcome.
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Maybe the Pope creates more patriarchates for the Eastern Catholic Churches? Basically have Paul VI make Slipyj Patriarch instead of Major Archbishop, for example.

So you would have, likely the additional:
Patriarch of Kiev (Greek-Catholic)
Patriarch of Ernakulam (Syro-Malabar Catholic)
Patriarch of Trivandrum (Syro-Malankara Catholic)
Patriarch of Fagaras, Alba Iulia and All Romania (Greek Catholic).

Additional possibilities:
Patriarch of Etchmiadzin and All Armenia (Armenian Catholic)
Actual, as opposed to titular, Greek Catholic Patriarchates of Alexandria and Jerusalem (OTL combined titularly in the Greek Catholic Patriarch of Antioch.)
 
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