Challenge: Alternate 19th/20th Century World Powers

[B_Munro]

Hey - I am doing maps again! Here's one for DrTron's scenario.

Bruce

 

[Agentdark]

YAY, Bruce is making maps again

 

[Lost the game]

Let's see:

Bonepartist France: Napoleon was killed while on campaign in Russia, leading to a Regency with his son as nominal monarch and Josephine and Talleyrand as dual regents. Italy remains a puppet of France


Secessionist North and West: A Supreme Court ruling that strikes down any antislavery law as unconstitutional causes a national firestorm, as whether or not to enforce it becomes a defining issue in the 1856 presidential election. The slaveocrat wins, a second Hartford Conference takes place as the New England states secede, with the rest of the north following suit, forming the Federation of American States. The new nation annexes the Dominican Republic, Hawaii, and purchases BC, Alaska, and the Phillipines.


Ottoman Empire: A series of reformist sultans rule. Traditionalists attempt a coup that fails and breaks their power base. in the 1830s they fight off a French invasion of Algiers and the sultan uses this as an excuse to tighten control over North Africa. in the 1870s the modernizing empire establishes a parliament which gains more and more power over the 20th century. With vast oil supplies and the Suez Canal the Ottoman Empire is considered a superpower.


United Provinces of the Sunda Islands The Dutch East India Company fights off a British invasion and intermarries with the natives. Dutch becomes a prestige language, though the majority of the population continued to speak Malayan until the early 20th century. In the 1850s many Cape Dutch who chafed under British rule traveled to the Sunda Islands, as did many Dutch who had fought for Dutch independence from France during the Year of Revolution.


Indian Federation In the 1920s India is given Dominion status. over the course of the next 80 years, the country rapidly develops, vying for influence with the Turks and Chinese in Central Asia, and with the Chinese and Sundans in Southeast Asia. Urdu is the prestige language, taught in most schools alongside English.

Brazillian Empire: When Bonepartist France installed a puppet king in Portugal, the native dynasty fled to Salvador in Brazil. There they stayed, eventually abolishing slavery in 1882. Brazil was another major power, along with Sunda and the secessionist Americans, that benefited from the emigration of those on the losing side of the Year of Revolution.

Federal Republic of China: In 1898, in response to growing western influence, a revolution overthrows the aging Qing Dynasty. A strong government kept the country together and successfully played the Russians, French, and British against each other. They found a surprising ally in the form of the Sundans, who gave military and naval aid to the new country in return for trade concessions. Over the course of the Twentieth Century, as colonialism declined and the nations of Southeast Asia became independent, this alliance broke down as they competed for influence.

United Kingdom of Britain, Ireland, Canada, Australia, and the Cape: An amalgamation of British dominions, this county is considered a waning power. After the first Emperor's war, Home Rule was granted to Ireland, and Canada, Australia, and the Cape were given Dominion status. After the Second Emperor's War, in 1939, they were elevated to kingdom status.

For the fate of OTL powers:
United States: the Free Stats and territories seceded. Afterward, the planter aristocrcy fought harder and harder to hold on to power. Allying with the French in the First Emperor's War, they were invaded by FAS. A communist revolution overthrows the planters, and make peace with the FAS, ceding Maryland, Delaware, Polypotamia (southern Illinois), Kansas, and Missouri.

Russia: Russia suffered greatly after the Third Emperors War. With an invasion of Russian-occupied Europe defeated and hundreds of thousands of soldiers killed, along with definite knowledge that the mass slaughter of Germans, Poles, Hungarians, Jews, Muslims, and Greeks were taking place, it was decided to destroy Russia. As a result, the Carthage Offensive was launched, as Kiev, Petrograd, Moscow, Tsartsyn, Novosibirsk, Omsk, Kazan, Kiev, Minsk, Pskov, Ryazan, Archangelsk, Astrakhan, Irkutsk, Sevastopol, Odessa, and Riga were destroyed by a nuclear offensive. Large parts of Russia's breadbasket were seeded with anthrax. Nearly half of Russia's population died in the ensuing famine, the Central Asian kingdoms go their own way, and Russia proper is the domain of warlords and petty tyrants.

Italy: Never unified. Subjected to the same mass enslavement and slaugher the rest of Europe was during the Third Emperor's War.

Germany: Unification comes in 1959, at the end of the Third Emperor's war, after nearly 40% of the population was killed in the Ochitska (Russian for cleansing)

Japan: Puppetized by China after the First Emperor's War.

 

[Antiochus]

Cool map Bruce! Looking forward to the next one!

An Indonesia power like United Provinces of the Sunda Islands suggested by Lost the Game sounds interesting. I've always thought that Indonesia doesn't get enough love.

Some very interesting timelines have been suggested here.

 

[Ridwan Asher]

Cool thread. Let's bump it with my Indonesian superpower idea. Majapahit, to be exact.

PoD : Paregreg didn't happen. The ensuing civil war will be the one that's quick and strengthening centralization, enabling the empire to rise again later.


The Year in 1900 AD.

Countries :
Mandala Agung
Essentially surviving Majapahit that has gone through dynastic, capital shifts, and critical and pragmatic conversion to Islam over centuries. Non-distegration of Javanese state has led to an imposing regional power in the Java Sea that spice-seeking Europeans will later run into, checking the growth of European expansionism in East Asia. From there, after some ups and downs, Javanese will grow to be the largest power in East Asia, forming a bloc of South East Asian states(Mitreka Pararaton) against European incursions, seizing India, along with the company, from British, and eventually secured the Indian Ocean Rim as their lake, European free ! Even Australia is entirely theirs, on which natives they're playing english and Indians with. While in East Africa they're playing Boers.


Russian Empire
Without Britain in India, she has become more daring in her Asian adventures, since her rival for influence in Asia is now a non-european country, and also with no European extraterritoriality in China to be a hindrance to their Oriental designs. Is of course still after the struggling Ottoman Empire.

France.
With India-less Britain, has become the largest European naval power.Together with the Javanese, the dual patrons of Ottoman Empire against Russian threat ! Consequently, they are Great Mandala's primary European ally, and has acquired special right for access to East Asian Market. Without opportunity for Asia colonial adventures however, she has been more active in Africa and Western Hemisphere, for the later at the chagrin of formerly British colonies of Northern New World.
Lately, the relations with Mandala has been sort of diverging ever since the rise of.....

Germany
Still mighty and formidable newcomer in Central Europe that threatens to throw the continent's balance of power.

United States of America
Without reliable British partner to enforce whatever Monroe Doctrine is called ITTL, has become more assertive.

Britain.
After the loss of India, has turned into developing and expanding South African colony like crazy. Contribute to checking French expansion in Americas, but considerably less then OTL.

Ottoman Empire
Between Frankish Infidels and Eastern whacky heretics, christians aren't the only source of fifth columnists. At least the Jawis are too eastern oriented to stop respecting the Caliph and take over the mantle of prophet.

East Asian Neighborhood
Facing a foreigner more experienced with intricacies of Confucian world, and shielded from Europeans by the said foreigner, has taken different route to modernize. Generally more gradual, culturally preserving and stuff. United in facing Russia with Mandala's backing.

 

[Wendell]

This does not seem hard. Just allow the native states and dynasties in India to do better and beat back the Europeans. Then, de to butterflies, Persia's influence grows rather than contracting. Have the Qing fall during one of the numerous rebellions and China devolve into warring states. Box in the U.S. analogue at the Mississippi, and allow monarchies to thrive on the western side of the continent. Let Austria win the War of the Bavarian Succession, have Prussia be weaker due to its wars going badly, and let the Orromans benefit from the renewed Hapsburg focus on Central Europe. Russian implosion/limitation seems doable too, just have Peter the Great's wars fail.