Challenge: 4 more kings

Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to keep Albania, Greece, Hungary, and Italy as monarchies and turn Portugal into one by the present day with a POD after the Potsdam Conference.
 
um well.... Albania and Hungary are fully under the power of the USSR so monarchy is unlikely there, and Hungary was a Republic pre-war, um the King of Italy was a support of Fascism and the war up till it all went bad, his Son Umberto II was well liked, if he had more time or a little luck he would of pulled the Monarchy threw and Italian Monarchy is alive today with King Victor Emmanuel IV, as for Portugal we could see a return in 1974.
 

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um well.... Albania and Hungary are fully under the power of the USSR so monarchy is unlikely there, and Hungary was a Republic pre-war, um the King of Italy was a support of Fascism and the war up till it all went bad, his Son Umberto II was well liked, if he had more time or a little luck he would of pulled the Monarchy threw and Italian Monarchy is alive today with King Victor Emmanuel IV, as for Portugal we could see a return in 1974.
Acctually Hungary was a monarchy with a vacant throne pre WW1, so just keeping Hungary out of Soviet hands might do the trick. Albania is ASB, Greece and Italy are doable, Portugal I am not sure about.
 
Portugal and Italy

As to Italy, the referendum in 1946 about whether the Monarchy should be abolished, was relatively close (54.3-45.7). There were some rumours, that the referendum was rigged in favour of the Republic.

Concerning Portugal, as to Wikipedia, in the 1950s, dictator Salazar pondered about a re-introduction of monarchy. I could also imagine a different transition to democracy later in the 70s with the coup being less left-wing and the successful transition in Spain being an encouragement to follow the path to constitutional monarchy.
 
For Greece - avoiding WW1 is probably your best bet. Post-1945, get a different king in charge and keep the military well away from politics (which would hopefully avoid the 1967-1974 junta).
 
George II of Greece died young at 56, in 1947, if he lives till oh i don't know 74 or so, you can stop the Apostasia

If we were willing to bend the POD, then the best hope for Greece would be Alexander - if only we can get rid of his pet monkey. :D Other than that, if we can get a different wife for Pavlos (i.e. anyone but Frederika), that could work - maybe even an extension of Yiorgos II's life. Anything to butterfly the Apostasia would be a good thing.
 
OK, I'm bumping this because I found some old threads relating to Greece that would be of help.

If we were willing to bend the POD, then the best hope for Greece would be Alexander - if only we can get rid of his pet monkey. :D

The monkey doesn't even belong at the palace in the first place. Get rid of the monkey, find a way of solving royal marital problems, and things would be okay if we were to bend the POD.


To keep things, within the POD:

Other than that, if we can get a different wife for Pavlos (i.e. anyone but Frederika), that could work - maybe even an extension of Yiorgos II's life. Anything to butterfly the Apostasia would be a good thing.

Again, a different wife for Pavlos would help a lot to get rid of the Apostasia, since Frederika was overwhelming. At the time of the 1967 junta, she told Konstatinos II to "sign the bloody paper!" authorizing the coup.
 
Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to keep Albania, Greece, Hungary, and Italy as monarchies and turn Portugal into one by the present day with a POD after the Potsdam Conference.

Greece: Keep the Kings (all of them) out of day to day politics.

Hungary: Otto Von Hapsburg moves to Hungary after the fall of the Iron Curtain, becomes a go between among the political parties, becomes President, does a good job, becomes Apostolic King of Hungary.

Italy, a few votes change, the crown wins the referendum. Umberto II does a good job, restores the monarchy's reputation. The crown is viewed as a stabilizing force during Italy's series of rotating governments during the Cold War.

Portugal, Salazar pulls a Franco, leaves Portugal with a stable government instead of the mess of 1974.

Albania, King Leka invades with an army of Rhodesian mercenaries and sets up a narco-state. (Tongue firmly in cheek...)
 
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