Challenge: 20th Century U.S. Secession crisis

The challenge is to, in the 20th century, create a secession crisis for the United States whereby a state(s) or territory(ies) attempts to leave the Union or seriously consider doing so.
 
The challenge is to, in the 20th century, create a secession crisis for the United States whereby a state(s) or territory(ies) attempts to leave the Union or seriously consider doing so.


Great depression much worse? or the bankers crisis in '32 goes alot further and they actually overthrow Roosevelt but there are states that leave to stay out from under their authority?

I was going to suggest something in '68 with civil rights but much much worse than in our time line but as bad as things got I think if a southern state did attempt to leave they'd be facing a civil war within their state as well as federal invasion from the outside.
 
One for the late 60s or early 70s.

The Black Panther Party puts all of it's effort into politics, and manages to narrowly edge out a Republican for Governor in a liberal state due to a slurry of factors. The Democratic candidate has a major scandal, the opponent is an unapologetic Goldwaterite, the BPP nominee is charismatic and is able to appeal to voters with his ideas, and he even distances himself from the rest of the party and socialism in general (though he's still pretty close).

Then a segregationist comes into the Presidency and tries to propose a law to keep segregation around forever. The Governor then gets pissed and rallies against the President. The President promptly tell the Governor to eat his shit and fuck a cock. The governor begins talking secession. The state senate won't let him carry it out, but you might get an attempt by hippies, the black power movement, and socialists to form a breakaway city state. A "Republic of Harlem", "Free Oakland", "Confederation of New Bedford", or "United States of Chicago".
 
Honestly I don't think it's possible post 1900. Though issue of secession was never settled by the courts, most people by 1900 have taken the position that secession was either unconstitutional, or at least a bad idea. In order for secession to be seen as a viable political option you need a much earlier PoD. The latest possible PoD has to be in a ACW where the south wins. Before that you could have Andrew Jackson not try to put down the secession attempt of South Carolina under John C. Calhoun. Before that you would probably need the Hartford Convention succeed. Bottom line is you either need to have an OTL pre-1865 secession attempt succeed, or have no secession attempts take place at all in order for it to be seen as a viable option in the 20th century.
 
something during the de-segregation crisis ? National guards unit side with their states rather then the federal government to protect their god given right to monochromatic classrooms.
 
All you need is to kill Lenin and Trotsky in 1904 when they are in Switzerland, make a grayer World War I (Russia attacks Sweden, bringing them in on the Central Powers side, causing Britain to promise Scania to Norway and/or all of Schleswig-Holstien down to Bremen, Smaland, and Gotland to Denmark if they join the Allies), an interwar period in which France tries to to turn Westphalia and the Rhineland into Departments, thus making it more difficult for the millitary to nip National Socialism in the bud without risking a civil war than in normally would have been without a Soviet Union, a grayer World War II (with MI6 intercepting forged correspondence and Churchill occupying Ireland and trying to get the Tudor Anglo-Irish on board), and Heckler and Koch relocating to Alabama to build their new munitions factory, and ODESSA sets up shop there too. Sudennly, VMI, Va Tech, the Citadel, Clemson, Alabama Tech (now Auburn) and Texas A&M have new millitary science and political theory professors with funny accents who can't pronounce their w's and th's. Then, the Suez Crisis still happens due to the Adalai Stevenson corralary to the Monroe Doctrine.

No Soviet Union, therefore no Soviet Union or threat of MAD. And A Rebuttal to "Progress" is published in 1955...
 
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Honestly I don't think it's possible post 1900. Though issue of secession was never settled by the courts, most people by 1900 have taken the position that secession was either unconstitutional, or at least a bad idea. In order for secession to be seen as a viable political option you need a much earlier PoD. The latest possible PoD has to be in a ACW where the south wins. Before that you could have Andrew Jackson not try to put down the secession attempt of South Carolina under John C. Calhoun. Before that you would probably need the Hartford Convention succeed. Bottom line is you either need to have an OTL pre-1865 secession attempt succeed, or have no secession attempts take place at all in order for it to be seen as a viable option in the 20th century.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._White


Supreme Court said the constitution does not allow secession is unconstitutional, however the truth is its constitutional as long as you can hold off the US Military :D
 

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I was going to suggest something in '68 with civil rights but much much worse than in our time line but as bad as things got I think if a southern state did attempt to leave they'd be facing a civil war within their state as well as federal invasion from the outside.

So, South Carolina again? They would be the ones to do it.
 
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