Challange: Make Hitler Anglophobic and Russiphilic

Replicator

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Could Hitler have become a hater of the British after WW1 something like:"It is the British people that allow the negroid race to enter Europe and advance to the Rhine".And at the same time a lover of Russia like: " The Slavs and especially the Russians have allways been Europe guardians from the Asian hordes they have my greates admiarition".Or ist this ASB?
 
A communist revolution in the UK and A fascist one in Russia? That seems about the only way.

It's Hitler... his views are psychotic and nonsensical from the get-go, this doesn't have to be based upon anything resembling common sense at all.

Only problem is Slavophilia isn't going to get him made chancellor.
 
A Welsh gentleman vacationing in Vienna in visits an art show in Vienna. Not impressed, he comments on a pair of particularly awful pieces while not knowing the artist was in the vicinity.

A hatred of Wales germinates in the mind of the young artist, and it evolves into a hatred of the entire British Empire after that politican leads the British Empire to victory in WWI.
 

wormyguy

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Hitler accepted to art school in Vienna, decides while there that British culture is somehow degenerate. Joins Austro-Hungarian Army, serves on the Russian front, is captured, escapes/is released during the Revolution and, having learned Russian as a prisoner, joins up with the Whites. His convincing oratorical skills convert many to the White cause, and he ends up becoming first Prime Minister of the Second Russian Republic. :p
 
I read this one AH work where Hitler enlisted in the Navy instead. Seeing so many Comrades killed by the Home Fleet focused his pathological hatred towards the British.
 

Eurofed

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I read this one AH work where Hitler enlisted in the Navy instead. Seeing so many Comrades killed by the Home Fleet focused his pathological hatred towards the British.

Yup, it's one of the TLs in Peter Tsouras' "Third Reich Victorious". Hitler joins the German Navy in WWI, gets a proper sense of the strategic importance of air and naval power, and swaps his anti-semitism with Anglophobia.
 
Yup, it's one of the TLs in Peter Tsouras' "Third Reich Victorious". Hitler joins the German Navy in WWI, gets a proper sense of the strategic importance of air and naval power, and swaps his anti-semitism with Anglophobia.

And somehow manages to beat France and keep the Soviets from attacking until it's convenient...
 
Hitler was in many wasy Anglophobic. He and Mussolini attempted to do away with soccwer a number of times. They failed but they were set in the conecpt of ridding each country of its Anglo influence.

Look up Volata, the sport the Fascists created to replace soccer.
 
Hitler accepted to art school in Vienna, decides while there that British culture is somehow degenerate. Joins Austro-Hungarian Army, serves on the Russian front, is captured, escapes/is released during the Revolution and, having learned Russian as a prisoner, joins up with the Whites. His convincing oratorical skills convert many to the White cause, and he ends up becoming first Prime Minister of the Second Russian Republic. :p

That sounds interesting. I'd love to read tl based on this.
 
Could Hitler have become a hater of the British after WW1 something like:"It is the British people that allow the negroid race to enter Europe and advance to the Rhine".And at the same time a lover of Russia like: " The Slavs and especially the Russians have allways been Europe guardians from the Asian hordes they have my greates admiarition".Or ist this ASB?

ASB without a seriously early, and far-reaching, POD. Hitler's "Russophobia" (I HATE with a passion the abuse of the "-phobia"-suffix that has become rampant everywhere, btw) was based on ideas of the racial inferiority of the eastern peoples. That's also why the Nazis didn't take advantage of a perfectly good opportunity to enlist the support of the locals when they invaded the USSR. Such a move could have won the war on the Eastern Front for Germany...
 
It's Hitler... his views are psychotic and nonsensical from the get-go, this doesn't have to be based upon anything resembling common sense at all.

Only problem is Slavophilia isn't going to get him made chancellor.

He could be a Russophile, but a Polonophobe.
 
Hitler was actually heavily influenced by White Russian literature, that helped enforce the notion that the Jews were behind Bolshevism. Have the Whites win and commit a massive pogrom and he'll become a Russophile. Indeed, Hitler may have believed most Eastern Europeans were scum but he still believed Aryans existed within the ruling elites (Cossacks were given pride of place among Nazi collaborators). Thus he claimed that the Jews, in 'taking over Russia', had 'subjugated a great people'.
 
Hitler accepted to art school in Vienna, decides while there that British culture is somehow degenerate. Joins Austro-Hungarian Army, serves on the Russian front, is captured, escapes/is released during the Revolution and, having learned Russian as a prisoner, joins up with the Whites. His convincing oratorical skills convert many to the White cause, and he ends up becoming first Prime Minister of the Second Russian Republic. :p
I get this is supposed to be comical, but in plays on the concept "He was a great orator is this language, so he will be in this".
 

whitecrow

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Hitler was actually heavily influenced by White Russian literature, that helped enforce the notion that the Jews were behind Bolshevism. Have the Whites win and commit a massive pogrom and he'll become a Russophile. Indeed, Hitler may have believed most Eastern Europeans were scum but he still believed Aryans existed within the ruling elites (Cossacks were given pride of place among Nazi collaborators). Thus he claimed that the Jews, in 'taking over Russia', had 'subjugated a great people'.
That’s interesting – I never knew Hitler admired Russian aristocrats and elites. Reminds me of a TL (which I think I saw on this site) where Nazi Germany won the war in Europe and turned Poland & Ukraine into Lebensraum but restored a Russian “Empire” in European Russia for Germany’s White Russian allies (as an added benefit, the Russian Empire formed a buffer between German territory and rump Soviet Union). When I first saw this I thought “Nazi Germany restoring Russian Empire? Even just as a puppet state? That’s beyond ASB!”. But if Hitler really did believe in racial superiority of Russian nobility, is something like the scenario in the TL I mentioned theoretically possible?
 
The Nazis admired the Tsarist elite partly on the basis that they were German, or otherwise separate from the Unwashed Masses. Nazism draw much of its ideology of world-struggle from stuff that had existed in the 19th C in Germany (and other countries) and the 19th C pan-Germans had never let Russia's anti-semitism endear it to them, or even the privileged status of its German population: it was a rival in the struggle of nations.

It was the Nazis who progressed to thinking of Russia as the source of living-space - the impressions of WW1 had quite a bit to do wit it - and once that happened, no Russian state of any kind was to be instituted. Any such idea is a shying away from their very explicit plans for the destruction of Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus.

And if it doesn't, then it doesn't, and the Germans have no reason to go conquering Russia (and are a new political movement unlike Nazism in at least one important respect, of course).
 
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