CH: An Anti-Great Awakening

With the latter, forgot that the Klan went through multiple iterations, my bad.:eek:

You have to think of the KKK as being like an evil, racist version of the Doctor, with periodic regenerations into new, slightly goofier forms. Their TARDIS takes the form of a fiery cross.
 
You have to think of the KKK as being like an evil, racist version of the Doctor, with periodic regenerations into new, slightly goofier forms. Their TARDIS takes the form of a fiery cross.

If it weren't for my blog-promoting in my signature (and the fact that's too long), that's sig-worthy.
 
First, it's important to remember that many of you guys's Founding Fathers where actually at best lukewarm, liberal and not very practicing christians. A lot where Deists, and maybe some frank Agnostics and Atheists.

Honestly, I think this has been greatly exaggerated by the Atheism lobby. George Washington was a practicing Anglican (though he did skip church for a while for political reasons). Yeah, Jefferson was a questioning deist, but he was a pretty unusual person-very philosophically minded, very head in the clouds.
 
The major problem with this is that the KKK was tolerated, as a group, in the region.

The difference? If France tolerated an Islamist group running around killing Jews, then yes, I'd say they don't have de-facto religious freedom. The KKK wasn't legally punished for their actions in the region they operated in for simply too long. Now, yes, for the most part, this was a specific region of the U.S., and not the entirety of it, but that's another matter.

Religious freedom requires that the state enforces it, not only that it's de-jure in existence. Otherwise, popular pressure can enforce de-facto religious monopolies, which yes, I'd argue is not religious freedom.

The early KKK was considered an outlaw group by the US government, and treated as such.
 
The early KKK was considered an outlaw group by the US government, and treated as such.

Okay, that does it.

I'll retract my earlier statement, the US can have its freedom of religious status, I'll just add the clause of it being rather bigoted towards religions outside of Protestantism for much of its history, deal?:p
 

Rex Mundi

Banned
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/08/nyregion/08zero.html?_r=3&partner=rss&emc=rss&

If there wasn't "true" religious freedom, the Catholic church referenced here would never have been built.

And the closest there ever was to European-style anti-Semitic pogroms in the United States was the Leo Frank situation. In the early 20th Century.

Why would it never have been built? There are innumerable places where Catholic churches have been built that didn't have true religious freedom.
 
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