CH: 2nd ACW from Great Depression

Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to have the Great Depression cause a 2nd American Civil War. Your POD can be before the depression IF the Great Depression is made worse, or affected in a similar way, from that POD somehow. Good luck.
 
I have some ideas:

1: between the end of the Civil War and the Panic of 1907, have several states of the Union declare through constititional ammendment the ownership of gold, silver, "and other precious metals and stones" to be a fundamental inalienable right, while at the same time denying those states the power to demonetize said materials.

2: D. C. Stephenson does not break with the original Klan organization, and insists on making sure that they stand for a platform, not a party. If he can manage to buy Valpariso, so much the better.

3: Without altering the outcome, or the substance of testimony under direct examination, make the trial of D. C. Stephenson look to all outsiders like a frameup and/or railroading. The Klan must be wounded, and not in charge during Black Tuesday, but it must remain organizationally intact so that it can capitalize it later at the polls.

4: Either Giuseppe Zangara succeeds in killing Franklin Delano Roosevelt, or if he must be elected, have the Business Plotters approach MacArthur, Stillwell, and Patton.

5: Huey Pierce Long needs a guardian angel.

6: Father Coughlin needs a ninja reputation watchdog and publicist.

7: Have news of Stalins Gulag reach the Wall Street Journal, while Henry Ford recapitalizes The American Mercury, with credible accounts of Soviet "Observers" of parts of the New Deal, making them more sinister than they actually are.

8: Spread rumors of Nazi infultration... of Boy Scouts of America. If possible, by adopting brimmed officer caps rather than red berets, Scots bonnets, kepis, or baceball caps as official headgear. Make mountains out of the molehills of Baldur von Schirach's American roots and annual vacations.

If you can combine at least five of those without forcing a move to Alien Space Bats, the fireworks will be awesome.
 

Warsie

Banned
The premise of crimson skies - i.e. more air power, less land intersections and rail links allowing said dissolution to happen easier?
 
Kalvan presented one that works quite well actually. You'd have the radical right from the Klan, and the radical left from disenfranchised workers in the Northeast.
 
But now with FDR removed, not quite so much.(one of the things that occurs.)

Besides, if the Gold Standard isn't removed, the Crash ain't lifting.
 
But now with FDR removed, not quite so much.(one of the things that occurs.)

Besides, if the Gold Standard isn't removed, the Crash ain't lifting.

But they don't need Roosevelt. They have Smith, who was the head of the Democratic Parties Northeastern Wing.
 
Yes and no. Yes, WW2 ultimately ended the Depression, but the New Deal stopped the spiral downwards, and preserved social stability economically speaking.
 
But now with FDR removed, not quite so much.(one of the things that occurs.)

Besides, if the Gold Standard isn't removed, the Crash ain't lifting.

And while everyone is too busy looking elswere, have the Baby Standard Oils brought back into the fold, as the Mob gets a hold of perfect P&E plates. Seventies stagflation, or Weimar Altmark crisis in the new world, you make the call!
 
Yes and no. Yes, WW2 ultimately ended the Depression, but the New Deal stopped the spiral downwards, and preserved social stability economically speaking.

Yes, but it also deepened the National Debt.
And while everyone is too busy looking elswere, have the Baby Standard Oils brought back into the fold, as the Mob gets a hold of perfect P&E plates. Seventies stagflation, or Weimar Altmark crisis in the new world, you make the call!

There won't be a second civil war without a pre-1900 POD.
 
I've read it already. You did pretty well given the circumstances, and the material you had. Not that Kaissreich, however some of its leaps of logic are kind of ridiculous(would the Pacific States really split?)

Besides that, part of the point of the point of this challenge is to present something more plausible than Kaissreich.
 
I've read it already. You did pretty well given the circumstances, and the material you had. Not that Kaissreich, however some of its leaps of logic are kind of ridiculous(would the Pacific States really split?)

Besides that, part of the point of the point of this challenge is to present something more plausible than Kaissreich.

I had difficulty with that. Instead, the Pacific States are basically the USA (they use the same constitution) but with a new flag and no military dictatorship (which is what the USA descended into). Combine that with some bear state nationalism and you get Merriam's republic.

And I see. In which case, it's almost certainly ASB.
 
It probably isn't what you're looking for, but that's basically the focal point of my TL, Reds! Complete with worse Great Depression.
But the New Deal didn't save the economy. It helped, but it didn't save the economy. The war saved the economy. Pearl Harbor saved the economy.
Only because modern warfare is massively and unintentionally Keynesian.
 
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