Central Powers Redux WWII

how does revived "Central Powers" Axis fare?

  • better

    Votes: 8 57.1%
  • are you kidding much worse

    Votes: 4 28.6%
  • same, over by 1945

    Votes: 2 14.3%

  • Total voters
    14
how would a Central Powers redux fare in WWII? starring Germany-Austria as Imperial Germany, Hungary as Austria-Hungary, Bulgaria as themselves, and Turkey as Ottoman Empire.

no Anti-Comintern Pact in this scenario, Germany has continued to support KMT China and trade with USSR (although diminished since Nazi Party came to power)

a pact similar to Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact is reached between Germany and USSR but only deals with Poland and Romania and trade issues.
 
with a neutral Italy, my understanding was that Turkey considered them their second most serious enemy after Soviets, a consideration in them joining OTL Axis Pact.
 
Sounds like it has potential, but with Japan as USA allies? all AMERICAN power is focused on Europe. Is there a way to keep AMERICA out?
 
Sounds like it has potential, but with Japan as USA allies? all AMERICAN power is focused on Europe. Is there a way to keep AMERICA out?

not sure if the continued trading/equipping of China by Germany (to the extent that they are able to continue under good graces of USSR) would cause the US to ally with Japan?

what my scenario is for is continuing Gen. von Seeckt policy of aligning with (if not allying with) USSR and China so that Germany can trade for raw materials despite (any) blockade.

coupled with "backyard" Axis that would establish a Baltic and East European empire.
 
a good view of pre-war situation

Little_Entente_in_Europe_1921-1938.png

Germany had curtailed much of their trade with USSR after Nazi regime came into power but replaced it to certain extent with Poland, Finland , and the Baltic states their is nice graph that shows the doubling or trebling of trade between Germany and the five https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi–Soviet_economic_relations_(1934–41)#Mid-1930s_deterioration_of_relations

what my scenario outlines is NOT assigning Finland and the Baltics to Soviet sphere of influence but leaving that issue aside and dealing only with Poland and Romania (and trade issues.) my view the Soviets would not pass chance to eliminate Poland under any circumstances but that of course might be incorrect.

invasion of Romania is always unpopular and stated to be unwise due to number of troops they contributed to invasion of USSR and possible sabotage of their oilfields? this scenario is to support Iron Guard in coup and invasion from Hungary, Bulgaria, and USSR, the OTL divisions of Second Vienna Awards plus rest of Transylvania and creating a rump state of Wallachia
 
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