Celtic central europe
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Noricum was conquered by the Romans in 16 BCE. Like any other province under Roman rule, its native population were culturally assimilated to a large degree. The Celts did not simply "disappear".
Ok, so the this would must be prevented, so Noricum stays celtic. After the roman empire breaks apart. Noricum conquers Raetia would be a first step.
what could happen then ?
A map shows how the country should look like in its final stage.
http://2.imgland.net/CWLZQrQ.jpg
what could happen then ?
A map shows how the country should look like in its final stage.
http://2.imgland.net/CWLZQrQ.jpg
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Don't put to much stock into reports of the physical descriptions. The Noricans/Taurisci wouldn't have looked too different from modern Austrians or Slovenians. The Greeks and Romans would bang on about light-skin, blonde or red hair and green and blue eye-colours as if those were uniform ethnic traits. There were perhaps a higher percentage of redheads and blondes among Celts, Thracians and Germanic peoples, but not traits that were strictly unique to them.
ok i see. Capital city would be Noreia or Virunum i think, unfortunatly the position of that place is not clear, it somewhere in Carinthia or Styria, but those places are a bit too mountainous for a big capital city. well the capital city can always change, i prefer having the capital next to a big river like the Danube. Maybe around the area of OTL Budapest or Vienna, big flat area, would allow a very big city aswell.
Would the celts continue to call the country Noricum ?
Would the celts continue to call the country Noricum ?
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Noricum was perhaps just the Roman name for the region, named for the main city of Noreia. The local Celts were called the Taurisci.
A city on the banks of the Danube would be the best place for a capital.
But werent the Noricans also another celtic tribe, or were they the same ? I would be intrested how the celts would call their kingdom. Maybe it would be named after the dominant tribe, the Taurisici. so it could be called "Land of the Taurisci" in the celtic language ?
Maybe it would be something like Tauriscibrog. Since brog means country in the norian language. But it sounds awkward. I dont really have a idea , the language is too sparse, but i think it was probably similar to gaulish, maybe the land would simply be called Tauriscia or something.
Maybe it would be something like Tauriscibrog. Since brog means country in the norian language. But it sounds awkward. I dont really have a idea , the language is too sparse, but i think it was probably similar to gaulish, maybe the land would simply be called Tauriscia or something.
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let alone the language. this is really complicated.If a powerful Celtic polity takes hold in this region, it would still be centuries away from the colonial era. And even then, if it is able to build an empire, it would more likely be a land-based empire anyway.
But before any talk of empire, you should wonder how it can avoid conquest by the Romans and how it can protect itself from other tribes and kingdoms in the centuries of OTL's Common Era.
I think the best bet for the Taurisci/Norici's survival, and the survival of other Celtic states from Iberia to the Balkans, would be eliminate Roma as late as the Second Punic War, or have the Senone defeat of the Romans in 390 BCE more lasting. This is the most likely scenario that would allow your Austria-based Celts to endure.
This what i would have thought:
After the roman empire breaks apart, The kingdom of noricum annexes Raetia. Afterwards it becomes part of the Frankish empire or atleast a satellite.
Ok, it doesnt have to be a superpower, but it should remain relativly strong. the roman empire falls apart like in OTLl,
After the roman empire breaks apart, The kingdom of noricum annexes Raetia. Afterwards it becomes part of the Frankish empire or atleast a satellite.
Ok, it doesnt have to be a superpower, but it should remain relativly strong. the roman empire falls apart like in OTLl,
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