Carving up Russia and China

Faeelin · Oct 11, 2005

Wow. Nice maps.

Shadow Knight · Oct 11, 2005

Faeelin said:
Wow. Nice maps.

Thanks. Btw I really enjoyed your TL's Prince of Peace and Answers for Milinda.

corourke · Oct 11, 2005

As for Lushon, I've tried googeling it but other than some mountian views in SE (landlocked province) I didn't come up with anything. Is that the same peninsula as the Prussian chinese territory?

Yes, that's the one.

Shadow Knight · Oct 11, 2005

Well I looked on the map GW posted of China and I couldn't find it...so how about we say they didn't get it in the rush to save me the trouble?

corourke · Oct 14, 2005

Is this just going to die? We need another Grey Wolf post in here.

Shadow Knight · Oct 15, 2005

I hope not but we'll see.

Flocculencio · Oct 15, 2005

That is a cool map- have you put it in the map thread? It looks like something that deserves to be preserved

Shadow Knight · Oct 16, 2005

Flocculencio said:
That is a cool map- have you put it in the map thread? It looks like something that deserves to be preserved

Not the colored in map, but the orginal blank is there.

The Gunslinger · Oct 18, 2005

Grey hasn't posted much lately, if at all. I don't think he abandoned us, at least I hope not.

Shadow Knight · Oct 18, 2005

Well since I've started lurking here (a good while before I started posting) I've seen GW disappear for a while. Probably RL things. He'll be back...at least I hopoe so.

Shadow Knight · Nov 9, 2005

The Gunslinger · Nov 9, 2005

After you put all that effort into those maps, a pity...

Othniel · Nov 10, 2005

Gone. who wants to try and continue this bane of thought?

Shadow Knight · Nov 10, 2005

Othniel said:
Gone. who wants to try and continue this bane of thought?

I gave thought to it, but I doubt I do a good a job as GW.

Shadow Knight · Mar 15, 2007

Bumping this old but yet awesome thread in case GW would like to resurrect it.

Grey Wolf · Mar 16, 2007

Shadow Knight said:
Bumping this old but yet awesome thread in case GW would like to resurrect it.

Streuth, I remember this, tho' of course I have nothing of my own on it anymore...

I'll have to reread it in its entirety and see if I can make any sense out of it ! I'm finding that half the stuff I wrote in 2005 feels as if an alien wrote it when I read it again now...

Best Regards
Grey Wolf

Shadow Knight · Mar 16, 2007

Grey Wolf said:
Streuth, I remember this, tho' of course I have nothing of my own on it anymore...

I'll have to reread it in its entirety and see if I can make any sense out of it ! I'm finding that half the stuff I wrote in 2005 feels as if an alien wrote it when I read it again now...

Best Regards
Grey Wolf

Well even if you don't start it back up it is still a good read. But still here's hoping.

SK

Analytical Engine · Mar 16, 2007

Shadow Knight said:
Conveniently I posted the base map (Twice even! See the Map Thread.) so you shant have to take the time to clean up the colors, etc.

Nope the US annexed Hawaii earlier (~1894 instead of 1898 in TTL, IIRC).

Well I figured since Britain was the stronger of the two that they would get more.

As for Inner Mongolia, I tried to give it mostly to Mongolia, but I figured Japan would take the Eastern portion (I don't foresee Mongolia being able to really stop them.).

Actually for Tibet I used the HOI 2 map for the 1938 scenario for another project I'm working on and didn't really bother to check to see if it was an appropriate border for ~1928 in a changed China.

As for Lushon, I've tried googeling it but other than some mountian views in SE (landlocked province) I didn't come up with anything. Is that the same peninsula as the Prussian chinese territory?

Shouldn't Tannu Tuva be a part of Mongolia?

Shadow Knight · Mar 16, 2007

Analytical Engine said:
Shouldn't Tannu Tuva be a part of Mongolia?

Well given that TT declared its independence from Russia in 1921 and later recognized as independent by Russia and Mongolia I thought that the region might have done so in this TL also. Just earlier.

But I'm not exactly too tied to the place so if others think that TT would have been incorporated into Mongolia during the carve up then I have no qualms with that.

Analytical Engine · Mar 16, 2007

Shadow Knight said:
Analytical Engine said:

Shouldn't Tannu Tuva be a part of Mongolia?

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Well given that TT declared its independence from Russia in 1921 and later recognized as independent by Russia and Mongolia I thought that the region might have done so in this TL also. Just earlier.

But I'm not exactly too tied to the place so if others think that TT would have been incorporated into Mongolia during the carve up then I have no qualms with that.

Yes, but it was Russia (well, the USSR) that detached it in the first place. Without Russia, Tannu Tuva would likely remain Mongolian (since the Tuvinians are a Mongolian people anyway).