What if the Carthaginians in Iberia survives the fall of Carthage and the rise of the Roman Empire? How does this affect the history of the region?
What if the Carthaginians in Iberia survives the fall of Carthage and the rise of the Roman Empire? How does this affect the history of the region?
What if the Carthaginians in Iberia survives the fall of Carthage and the rise of the Roman Empire? How does this affect the history of the region?
It fell to the Romans long before Carthage did.
Nova Carthage, as it would have likely been called would have been a Punic reformation of sorts.
If Carthage is smart they will centralize, try to unite the whole of Iberia and form a Iberi-Punic culture. Carthage will become something of a lost cause, a legend really.
Now, best case scenario Nova Carthage survives the Third Punic War and doesn't focus so much on Mediterranean trade. After all, that's what started the Punic Wars in the first place, control over the Mediterranean. Instead Nova Carthage could work with the Iberian, Celtiberian, Gallic and Berber tribes likely giving them more of a chance of surviving Roman expansionism then in our timeline.
Today, assuming Nova Carthage or some successor also survives German migration in the 5th century , assuming it happens at all. Iberia as we know it would be very Greek influenced. Iberians really would just be unrecognizable by today's idea of an Iberian. Iverians would be a mix of Phoenicians, Greeks, Celts, native Iberians and Berber peoples and influences.
Just to throw this out there, I would love to see if Baal Hammon survives. The Cult of Baal Hammon could easily get stronger from the fall of Carthage. The Punic people could see the fall of Carthage as a time to redeem themselves of their mistakes.
Oh and yes before you ask, eventually there would likely be a Fourth Punic War.
Do you think the Punic language have as large of a spread in Iberia as it did in North Africa during the late Republic/early Empire?
Well no, the language we would see form in this alternate timeline would have been a mix of Punic, Iberian, Celtiberian and possibly a touch of the Berber languages from Berber supporters and traders.
Yeah, but it would almost certainly still be a descendent of Punic the same way Romanian is a descendent of Latin. So another Canaanite language.
If Hasdrubal Barca successfully crushes Scipio "Africanus" like he had crushed Scipio´s father, what would happen to the overall result of Second Punic War?
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Could block re supply via river and contribute troops to a siege though and starve Rome, dunno how feasible that is?
I don't think a siege of Rome in general is feasible for Carthage and I think Hannibal knew this. As much as he wanted to conquer Rome it would have taken a lot of things that Hannibal simply could not have gotten. Siege equipment for one.
Hannibal realistically was one of the greatest generals in history, he went above and beyond in a time and under a simply pathetic government that could not agree that Rome was their common enemy. That's why I say not much would change, because what Hannibal already did in our timeline was above and beyond the call of duty.