Carthagian Empire

Hannibal losesfar less troops than he did crossing the alps. He is able to conquer Rome. He moves on to conquer Greece, Palistine, and Egypt. How long would carthage last, also what would be differant today Without roman ideals and politics?
 
How would he be able to conquer Greece, Palestine and Egypt? He will have to deal with Macedonia, the Aetolian League, the Achaean League and Sparta in Greece. He will have to deal with the then powerful Ptolemaic dynasty in Egypt, and Palestine is already disputed over by said Ptolemies and their even more powerful rivals, the Seleucid Empire. Plus the Carthaginian senate's support for his war against Rome was sort of half-hearted to begin with. Hannibal wasn't out to conquer the world, but to restore the fortunes of Carthage and avenge their losses in the First Punic War.
 
Pretty much. Hannibal would prefer to humiliate Rome and keep them around as a punching bag rather than to annex them outright.
 
You seem to assume that Carthage was essentially a mirror Rome. While this is true in a few aspects, Carthage and Rome were in most aspects diametrically opposed.

The Carthaginians were foremost business people, not empire builders like Romans. In the case of a Carthaginian victory, there would be no Carthaginian empire in the way there was a Roman Empire.

The only place where I genuinely see an expansion of Carthaginian power in the case of a victory is on the Iberian penninsula. In the interwar period between the First and Second Punic Wars, the Carthaginians expanded their influence in Iberia. So, we might see an expansion into Lusitanian and Gallaecian territories.
 
And with increased Carthaginian control over Iberia, imagine the trade routes they'd further develop. Increased trade with the British Isles, and perhaps more regular trips around Africa!
 
That is the point, that they created an empire. Say they did, (I've seen plenty of more unlikely things on this site) Hannibal defeats rome, their enemy Carthage is pumped up. He attacks other countries. Say the leaders surrendered, come on he defeated Rome a growing power by this point. Maybe Hannibal forces the Romans to fight for him (If nothing else make his army look larger in battle.) It is an alternate history timeline the point is not to debunk the theory. What would happen if he did.
 
Hannibal losesfar less troops than he did crossing the alps. He is able to conquer Rome. He moves on to conquer Greece, Palistine, and Egypt. How long would carthage last, also what would be differant today Without roman ideals and politics?
Errr... Hannibal's not going to be able to conquer all of those places, under any circumstances. As Lysandros points out, Carthage as an entire state doesn't have enough resources to conquer and annex Egypt or to take Palestine from the Seleucids, or to wrest Greece Proper from the Macedonians and various other states; plus, the Punic government wouldn't allow Hannibal to go this rogue - the only way Hannibal would be able to accomplish this is via a civil war, which would deplete resources, cause instability, and etc.

Now, depending on who you talk to, Carthage theoretically could conquer an empire of this size over time (which I'd say it's possible, but very unlikely to play out if we were to simulate an alternate history...), but for Hannibal to do it on all on his own would require borderline insanity on his part, and ASB luck.

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And with increased Carthaginian control over Iberia, imagine the trade routes they'd further develop. Increased trade with the British Isles, and perhaps more regular trips around Africa!

I think Carthaginian outposts in Aremorica, Britain and Ireland aren't that implausible in such a scenario.
 
That is the point, that they created an empire. Say they did, (I've seen plenty of more unlikely things on this site) Hannibal defeats rome, their enemy Carthage is pumped up. He attacks other countries. Say the leaders surrendered, come on he defeated Rome a growing power by this point. Maybe Hannibal forces the Romans to fight for him (If nothing else make his army look larger in battle.) It is an alternate history timeline the point is not to debunk the theory. What would happen if he did.
OK... Hannibal's remembered as better then Alexander the Great... Carthage expands into Iberia, maybe Britain, and maybe further south and west into Africa... does he have direct control of Italy? If so, Carthage would probably expand into Illyria too, I guess... maybe Anatolia?
 
If Hannibal succeeds in totally destroying Rome and its inhabitants, he will also need to destroy a number of colonae and cities in Latium, Etruria, Campania, Picenum and Umbria, to prevent the leaders of these external Roman centres from reforming the Republic. Hannibal would need to make sure that the newly independent Socii states in Italy crackdown on their former Roman overlords.

After that, Hannibal may next sail to western Sicily, to restore Carthage's authority over the former Punic colonies there. If the sack of Rome occurs before the year 212 BCE, than Carthage's dominance of the whole island may be challenged by its oldest rival: Syracuse.

Syracuse was sacked by the Romans in 212. Before that it was a very rich and formidable city-state. Syracuse was not just a contender for local dominance, but was right in the path of major traffic from the eastern Mediterranean. Most ships from the east would pass through it's ports before reaching Carthage. And if left unchecked, could form a league out of the other Greek colonies, not just in Sicily, but on the Italian mainland as well. But if Hannibal destroys Rome after 212 BCE, all Sicily could be brought under nominal Carthaginian rule in a few years.

But Carthage would still have a long way to go before properly competing on the world stage again, and may not be able to pull it all off within Hannibal's lifetime. Not to mention that Hannibal was still the governor-general of Carthage's territories in Iberia, and governed on his own terms, but "in the name of Carthage". There may be a reckoning between Hannibal's partisans and the Carthaginian senate.
 
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Even if Carthage had completely defeated Rome, they would not have annexed Italy because they lacked the resources to do so. They would have reduced Rome to a subject status and created a network of alliances with the Etruscan and Greek cities in Italy.
 
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