Canadian Naval Aid Bill passes

A too perfect answer but one that I am going to give would be that these 3 units Acadia, Quebec and Ontario along with Agincourt (the 6th QE originally ordered not the 'seized' Brazilian/Ottoman ship) are built instead of the Rs and instead the 'Revenges' are laid down later as 3 or 4 OTL Renown class BCs

The additional 4 QE's are laid down instead of the first 4 Revenges - which along with 4 more revenges are instead ordered later - however they are all cancelled before being laid down upon the outbreak of war and Admiral Lord Fisher upon becoming First sealord petitions and subsequently gains permission to restart construction of the first 4 as 4 Battlecruisers designed to enter service quickly.

The 2nd Batch of QEs

Name Builder laid down Launched Commissioned
Agincourt Vickers-Armstrong 22 December 1913 29 May 1915 1 February 1916
Arcadia Palmers 29 November 1913 14 January 1915 30 December 1916
Quebec HM Dockyard, Davenport 15 January 1914 17 November 1914 1 May 1916
Ontario HM Dockyard, Portsmouth 15 January 1914 29 April 1915 18 April 1916

The Renowns

Name Builder laid down Launched Commissioned
Renown Vickers-Armstrong 25 January 1915
Resolution Fairfield, Goven
Royal Sovereign John Brown Clydebank
Royal Oak HM Dockyard, Portsmouth

This gives the British 7 QEs potentially available in Mid 1916 and 9 + 4 Renowns by 1918

The 2nd batch would likely have benefitted from learnings from the first batch and might actually attain their designed speed of 25 knots

The 4 Renowns delay the ordering of the Admirals and these are suspended and then delayed and ultimately cancelled

Instead following on from the Washington Naval treaty in 1920 4 x 35 Kton 'Admiral or Nelson class' vessels designed with all the learnings from the Battles of Jutland and Jade built between 1923 and 1926 along the lines of the G3 design with 2 triple turrets mounting improved 15" Guns forward of the superstructure and one Triple in the Q position amidships - Capable of 27 knots (28+ on Emergency power) they were the first true Fast 'modern' battleships.
 
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The Canadian QE's were to be funded by Canada for the RN as were HMS New Zealand and HMS Malaya, there is no way Canada would have kept these ships post war, the cruiser Aurora only lasted till 1922.
Initial plans called for coal oil firing boilers for Canadian QE's hopefully they would have been changed to full oil before completion, would shp have been same as QE's?, Freidman list 56000 shp for coal oil plant.
If completed RN would keep these 15" gun ships instead of 13.5" ships of equal tonnage at Washington, how would have they effected 1st LNT? RN unlikely to give up any 15" gun ships. Japan gets to keep Hiei in commission a RN 15" guns ships designated as training ship?

My personnel opinion is that the funds from the Canadian navy aid bill, if it had passed, should have went to purchase the Chilean battleships building at Armstrong's, with the first ship completing as historical HMS Canada, the 2nd ship HMS Acadia converted to oil firing, should have been completed in time for Jutland, with Chile buying ships back postwar.
This would have been cheaper and more likely to pass the house, more a war loan than an outright gift, most of the funds recouped postwar with sale to Chile.
 
Why couldn't it be one or two battleships in return for Canada building cruisers and destroyers? Given the critical lack of those, the main reason Jellicoe feared an engagement was because the German light vessels outnumbered his, wouldn't Canada have been better off building the lights?
 
After the defeat of the bill to fund 3 QE for the RN, the bill is resubmitted with a major change. The ships will be for the RCN. Proponents argued that the RAN had a battlecruiser and as a united country, Australia was only 12 years old. How could Britain's oldest colony and Dominion not have one. Their southern neighbor had 8 Dreadnoughts and 5 Dreadnoughts building. With these pleas the new bill is passed. The ships to be named; Canada, Arcadia and First Dominion.
 
The South African government voted to fund a battleship also after Canada passed its bill. Could not let Australia, Canada and New Zealand fund ships and have them named for their Dominions. Another Revenge class battleship was funded, giving the Empire a potential 9 Queen Elizabeth and 9 Revenge class battleships. All 18 battleships expected to be in service by 1917.
 

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What if there is a compromise where 2 of the ships are fully operated by the RN, but one is manned by a Canadian crew but still under RN command? Something similar to the arrangements on HMS Nabob and HMS Puncher.
 
Canada should be building ships like destroyers and cruisers. Jellicoe would probably give ships away if they allievaited his small ship shortage.
 
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