Canada Unglued

Where I start to take issue is your political predictions:



The problem is that the Canadian political spectrum is to the left of the US spectrum. Way left. The Liberals might die off, but because they got squeezed between the Democrats and the NDP, not the Dems and the GOP. I think this sums it up best:

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I suspect the NDP has a long, prosperous future ahead of it. :)

(Also, there'll be a CanadaFirst! party pretty quick, as well.)

Its not a question of left right split its a question of ability to get things done in the US Congress and have the funds to back national elections in other states. Only the Progressive Conservative are going to be a factor in the expanded Senate. That the New Democratic Party is so more left than the US Democrats is moot if they are unable to do anything with their political stance because of lack of funds and political support structure. The 1980's US politics was very different compared to today and both parties were more towards the center. Quirks of US election laws are going to make it very hard for either the DNP or PC to expand.

As to Prince Edward Island, it is like 1/2 or 1/3 the size of the smallest US state it would be a problem.

Michael
 
Its not a question of left right split its a question of ability to get things done in the US Congress and have the funds to back national elections in other states. Only the Progressive Conservative are going to be a factor in the expanded Senate. That the New Democratic Party is so more left than the US Democrats is moot if they are unable to do anything with their political stance because of lack of funds and political support structure. The 1980's US politics was very different compared to today and both parties were more towards the center. Quirks of US election laws are going to make it very hard for either the DNP or PC to expand.

As to Prince Edward Island, it is like 1/2 or 1/3 the size of the smallest US state it would be a problem.

Michael

I think the most likely solution here is that over time, the Canadian parties would be absorbed into the US ones. As a result, the Democratic and Republican Parties would have to move slightly left to get Canadian votes.
 
I think the most likely solution here is that over time, the Canadian parties would be absorbed into the US ones. As a result, the Democratic and Republican Parties would have to move slightly left to get Canadian votes.

Keep in mind that both parties, especially in the 80's, covered a wide spectrum of politics. 1980’s are before the DNC lost the old southern Dems who were very socially conservative for example. The GOP was a Mountain State and New England stronghold party. The average might be to shift towards the left but mainly in the sense of running candidates more appealing to ex Canadian voters in the former provinces. A modern example would be Blue Dog Democrats being run in fairly conservative districts; they are to the right DNC and acceptable to nominal Red State Voters. Unless the Conservative Progressives could establish a strangle hold in the former Canadian provinces that’s what the DNC and GOP would try. The key long term would be control of new state legislatures and there fore state election laws and house district boundaries.

Michael
 
I think the most likely solution here is that over time, the Canadian parties would be absorbed into the US ones. As a result, the Democratic and Republican Parties would have to move slightly left to get Canadian votes.

I don't see that happening at all.
 

NomadicSky

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Why? I mean, I realise that most of the guy's TL is kinda goofy, but why would Canada change its name from Canada? That's the whole point of a rump state- it still claims to be the legitimate government of a large predecessor state.

Well I agree it is really none to plausible. Still though I was just thinking.

Also the point of this is about representation. In TTL the Prairies spit from Ontario because it's so dominating.

Why would they join the US where their voice would be even weaker?
 
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