Can the UK keep some American states?

Alternatively, what if the British had kept its conquered parts of Maine in the War of 1812? That would be really funny.


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If Machias falls during the Revolution, the Penobscot is probably the new border, even when the British won a resounding victory during the Penobscot Expedition that small town holding out effectively set the border where it was.

I actually have that book. Very short but worth a read.
 
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Loyalist support in North Carolina proved disappointing as there was suspected to be more support in the colonies, and there was. For example, the Scotts made up over 90% loyalist army in the battle of Moore’s Creek.

You answered your own question here. Loyalist sentiment was extremely strong in NC early in the war, but loyalist forces were outright shattered at the Battle of Moore's Creek in 1776.

Loyalists then spent the next 4 years facing persecution, loss of property and many were forced to flee. By the time Cornwallis showed up, most of the Loyalist population had either been killed, fled, or were unwilling to risk coming out. Cornwallis losing half of his field army at Guilford Courthouse didn't help loyalist morale either.

The British need to go all in on a Southern Strategy from the get go if they want to rally the full loyalist population. If they don't, they just give the Patriot militias the time to subjugate and silence the loyalists.
 

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You answered your own question here. Loyalist sentiment was extremely strong in NC early in the war, but loyalist forces were outright shattered at the Battle of Moore's Creek in 1776.

Loyalists then spent the next 4 years facing persecution, loss of property and many were forced to flee. By the time Cornwallis showed up, most of the Loyalist population had either been killed, fled, or were unwilling to risk coming out. Cornwallis losing half of his field army at Guilford Courthouse didn't help loyalist morale either.

The British need to go all in on a Southern Strategy from the get go if they want to rally the full loyalist population. If they don't, they just give the Patriot militias the time to subjugate and silence the loyalists.
OH yes, I'm sorry for the typos; it's edited now; sorry, the battlefield did prove decisive with handling the king's men. While many backwoods south Carolinas resented the influential aristocratic planters, representation gradually improved amoung the backwoods people of South Carolina decreasing the reasons to take revenge against the whig planters.

. Circumstances often changed during the American Revolution, including an opportunity many patriots who switched as loyalists did so because they didn't want to get captured and were grudgingly fighting against their patriot comrades in the Georgia campaign. Scottish lowlanders settled in the middle and southern colonies, but not usually in new England.
 
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