Can the Soviet expansion after Stalingrad be stopped?

As we know WWII ended with the Soviets conquering half Europe. And a lot of WWII scenarios that doesn't have Germany winning after it attacks the USSR involves this.

So my question is, is there any possible post-Stalingrad scenario in which Stalin is stopped from conquering other countries and he just simply recovers proper Russian territory? Any possible means are accepted as long as they are not ASBs, changes in military strategy, coups against Hitler, etc.
 
I suppose the US and Britain cutting Lend Lease to 0 in January 1943 might do the trick, but I can't imagine why they would do so.
 
It would require the Nazis being more successful against the USSR than IOTL, requiring them to push back harder and from further away.

When you say "post-Stalingrad", do you mean "post the beginning of the siege", or "post the end of the siege" - because that makes (something of) a difference.
 
It would require the Nazis being more successful against the USSR than IOTL, requiring them to push back harder and from further away.

When you say "post-Stalingrad", do you mean "post the beginning of the siege", or "post the end of the siege" - because that makes (something of) a difference.

Post end of the siege.
 
Post end of the siege.

If the Germans make another push, maybe, but the Allies are going to be invading Italy fairly soon after the end of the siege of Stalingrad, which will divide the Axis' attentions. Perhaps the Italians manage to hold the WAllies back for longer, or D-Day has to be delayed because reasons.

Basically, the Axis has to have everything going right for them.
 
Without going in to specifics, Grofaz' interference in the fighting on the Eastern Front after Stalingrad was one bit of stupidity after another. Had more intelligent tactics been used, the rate of Russian progress to the west could have been slowed significantly. This doesn't mean the Russians end the war at their pre-1939 border, but certainly their furthest advance is somewhere to the east of where it was OTL. With the Russians further away, there is no reason for the US/UK/France to stop at the border of where their zones intersected with the Russians, as pushing east is necessary to end the war. It would not be unrealistic to see the western allies end up with most of Germany occupied by them at the end of the war, likewise most of Czechoslovakia and Austria. IMHO more than a slice of Poland is probably unrealistic, likewise much of Hungary. Romania, Bulgaria, and Yugoslavia (this last because of Tito) are cerrtain to be Soviet occupied/controlled.
 
If the Germans make another push, maybe, but the Allies are going to be invading Italy fairly soon after the end of the siege of Stalingrad, which will divide the Axis' attentions. Perhaps the Italians manage to hold the WAllies back for longer, or D-Day has to be delayed because reasons.

Basically, the Axis has to have everything going right for them.

I was thinking more along the lines, that a reasonable german leadership coups Hitler or somehow Hitler gets killed in action (which actually was possible a few times) and they realize that the war is lost and allow the wallies to come to Germany unopposed while they keep fighting the USSR, on the condition that the Stalin won't be allowed to get an inch that is not Russian territory.

It is a far shot, but I think it is not impossible, after all the way more hardened Japanese agreed to just allow the US to occupy Japan just so the Soviets don't.

In this scenario the war could end with the wallies on Germany but with the even Russia proper still occupied by German troops, then Stalin is told by the wallies that the German troops are being withdrawn but that he has no legitimate claims to anything that is not Russia.
 

Redcoat

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I was thinking more along the lines, that a reasonable german leadership coups Hitler or somehow Hitler gets killed in action (which actually was possible a few times) and they realize that the war is lost and allow the wallies to come to Germany unopposed while they keep fighting the USSR, on the condition that the Stalin won't be allowed to get an inch that is not Russian territory.

It is a far shot, but I think it is not impossible, after all the way more hardened Japanese agreed to just allow the US to occupy Japan just so the Soviets don't.

In this scenario the war could end with the wallies on Germany but with the even Russia proper still occupied by German troops, then Stalin is told by the wallies that the German troops are being withdrawn but that he has no legitimate claims to anything that is not Russia.
This scenario will make Stalin feel even more betrayed by the west.
 
This scenario will make Stalin feel even more betrayed by the west.

He can feel all he wants about the West, but so what if he can't do anything about it? Remember this is the same Stalin that was willing to do Brest Litovsk 2.0 just months into Barbarossa because he didn't believed he would win. I don't see him defying Wallies + the rest of the german army.
 

FBKampfer

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Allied push up through the Balkans and into central Europe.

Completely screws the German's logistical situation, and threatens to encircle entire army groups by 1944, leading to a race between the Allies pushing Northeast, and the Soviets going West.

But everything west of Germany basically goes to the Allies by default, since they can just land unopposed in the Netherlands and drive a dividing line once they hit Switzerland, and might let the Allies bag Romania and Hungary if they're quick about it.
 
Allied push up through the Balkans and into central Europe.

Where exactly are they going to land, and how are they going to get resupplied? The advance ground to a halt in late '44 OTL because they were outrunning their supply lines, even with PLUTO, the Mulberries, various French ports, and their primary base area little over a hundred miles away. The Balkans are far more mountainous (i.e. better for defence and worse for logistics), are a very long way from the UK, and fuel will have to be shipped in along with everything else instead of being piped.

The best prospect of keeping the Red Army as far east as possible would be a combination of the Heer being allowed to conduct a mobile defence without interference, and a successful Arnhem. It would take a lot of luck, and much better preparation, but getting across the Rhine and going left-flanking around the Westwall would allow the possibility of an advance across the North German Plain six months earlier than OTL.
 
What if the Germans discover their codes are broken in 1943 by Breaking allied codes. The allies find out and cancel the invasion of Italy, the Germans modify or cancel the attack on kursk leading to a succes relative to OTL. Maybe the have their pincers closer and avoid the worst of the prepared killing Grounds and cut off the tip of the salient.
So stronger 1943 on the eastern front, contibuous better performance because of radio security.
The allies still land in normandy 1944 after having changed their codes. They still progress because of superior fire power.
 
The best prospect of keeping the Red Army as far east as possible would be a combination of the Heer being allowed to conduct a mobile defence without interference, and a successful Arnhem. It would take a lot of luck, and much better preparation, but getting across the Rhine and going left-flanking around the Westwall would allow the possibility of an advance across the North German Plain six months earlier than OTL.
Plus cutting L-L would be counterproductive. It would just allow Germans to put more troops against western allies.
 
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