That is to say, with a POD no earlier than the Treaty of Versailles. Not to mention the knock-on effects in Spain, Portugal, France and Germany. I'd expect the Nazis to still be around. Other than that, I don't know.
I think the problem with Red Turin was the fact that they caused the Fascist movements to become more popular because of Red Turin's violent nature and clashes with the government. The lack of a Red Turin paramilitary group would perhaps soften the threat of Communism in Victor Emmanuel III's eyes and a Fascist movement would still arise to some degree which would be seen as a greater threat than the mostly peaceful Communist and Socialist groups in the country, possibly?I was thinking the best opening they had was with Red Turin. But you had discredited/crushed fascism and a weak monarchy get toppled in the great depression? That'd work.
I suppose so, but Soviet aid on the level of the OTL Spanish Civil War (supplying aircraft, tanks, artillery, munitions, arms, etcetera) would not be too unfeasible and if there were large defections from the Royal Italian Army then the Communists would perhaps possess the expertise to operate more complex devices effectively? If not, a more interventionist Soviet Union could send their own version of the Condor Legion and volunteer units to fight without officially partaking in the war.Yugoslavia? Definitely a bridge too far.
That is a very intriguing point. During the Matteotti affair, a general strike was threatened but Victor Emmanuel III stayed firm as Mussolini was supported by a majority of the Chamber of Deputies and the Senate he stayed firm; a dismissal could have led to civil war between the Blackshirts and the rest of the Italian government.The problem with a communist Italy was that unlike fascism there is no a single clear leader who can organize the movement, just see how they react during the Matteotti affair, totally without leadership or any clue.
Indeed. I suppose to have a more united left, you'd either need Italy to become a refuge for Communist exiles from the Soviet Union (but it's unlikely they would be beneficial, being perhaps even more divisive and generally implausible that such a situation would even occur), a charismatic figure arising to unite the left (again, most certainly implausible and a wild-card) or an earlier POD sometime before the First World War.The problem with the scenario above is that even for some reason there is more unity on the left, the moment Mussolini is ousted you will see socialist and communist begin to fight each other (and the fascist remnant and the royalist army) unless someone take the lead...and frankly i don't see anyone at the time.
Riot and revolt? Sure. Civil war? A serious probability? A communist Italy? Almost impossible.
Sorry short of civil war the monarchy will not be touched, even OTL, after the fascism and the war it almost survive, so if there will be a socialist goverment through election (maybe the King have in his damned life one bright idea and not trust his capability to control Benny) it will learn to work with the monarchy as was done in other country.At best, wouldn't there at least be a realistic chance of a Socialist-dominated democratic government gaining power through more peaceful means with some of the aforementioned circumstances and thereafter abolishing the monarchy?
He was expelled from the party for essentially not being a socialist in the slightest, which is kind of a problem for him ending up proto-Stalinist without him being unrecognizable as a person.You know, Mussolini started off as a Socialist. It might just be simpler to make him a proto-Stalinist?
Hmmm. You could make him a Red Fascist, but then it really wouldn't be Communism, would it?He was expelled from the party for essentially not being a socialist in the slightest, which is kind of a problem for him ending up proto-Stalinist without him being unrecognizable as a person.