can Germany inflict enough damage on Russia in 1915 to have revolution in nov 1916?

Can Germany defeat Russia in 1915 sufficiently to have Russian revolution 6 months earlier ?

if German throw a kitchen sink on Russia in 1915 exp

1. get extra 8 divisions form western front.

Second Battle of Artois in may 1915 German inflicted 1 to 2 Casualties-ratio on western entente. entente attack in may 1915 where easily repulsed by German.

2. make major naval landing on Aland island and gulf Riga islands supported by all HSF capital ships in may 1915

3. make chemical attacks only in eastern front.

that can lead to German capture of Riga and Minsk in 1915.
Russian will launch massive attack on German to recapture Riga and Minsk in winter 1915-16.
German inflicted 1 to 5 Casualties-ratio on Russian attacks by example Lake Naroch Offensive. essentially turn Riga in eastern Verdun and bleed Russian army dry. so that Brusilov Offensive don"t happen

can that lead to Russian revolution in late 1916 instead of early 1917 ?
 
Can Germany defeat Russia in 1915 sufficiently to have Russian revolution 6 months earlier ?

if German throw a kitchen sink on Russia in 1915 exp

1. get extra 8 divisions form western front.

Second Battle of Artois in may 1915 German inflicted 1 to 2 Casualties-ratio on western entente. entente attack in may 1915 where easily repulsed by German.

2. make major naval landing on Aland island and gulf Riga islands supported by all HSF capital ships in may 1915

3. make chemical attacks only in eastern front.

that can lead to German capture of Riga and Minsk in 1915.
Russian will launch massive attack on German to recapture Riga and Minsk in winter 1915-16.
German inflicted 1 to 5 Casualties-ratio on Russian attacks by example Lake Naroch Offensive. essentially turn Riga in eastern Verdun and bleed Russian army dry. so that Brusilov Offensive don"t happen

can that lead to Russian revolution in late 1916 instead of early 1917 ?

This may have very nearly happened anyway. See Ambassador Paleologue's memoirs at

http://net.lib.byu.edu/estu/wwi/memoir/FrAmbRus/pal3-03.htm

Had there been more troops involved, or the Cosssacks taken longer to show up - -.

It might help if Germany took the Islands in 1915, and maybe Riga as well. That brings the front line that much nearer Petrograd, so the troops may be more einfluenced by the discontent in the capital.
 
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Other than mutual strategic insignificance I don't see why the Germans couldn't have done the OTL 1917 amphibious operation in 1915, it would have been an extra kick in the guts for the Russians that year.
 

tenthring

Banned
The Germans (well, some German generals) seem to believe that:

1) The vastness of Russia makes complete military victory impossible
2) Humiliating the Tsar would make him less likely to surrender

Of course if you knew a revolution would break and and go the way you want it to go then you'll act differently, but nobody knew that.
 

Cryostorm

Monthly Donor
The Germans (well, some German generals) seem to believe that:

1) The vastness of Russia makes complete military victory impossible
2) Humiliating the Tsar would make him less likely to surrender

Of course if you knew a revolution would break and and go the way you want it to go then you'll act differently, but nobody knew that.

Which is kind of strange considering it had had one not even a decade earlier and most knew the minorities in the Russian Empire were far from passive.
 
If Germany decided to focus on Russia and defend on its smaller border with France, its a maybe. Also if Germany could get Sweden into the war, the Russian front would fold, but doing so would probably require a Black Flag operation and some Baltic Shenanigans to sway Sweden's Riksdag to go for it.
 
If Germany decided to focus on Russia and defend on its smaller border with France, its a maybe. Also if Germany could get Sweden into the war, the Russian front would fold, but doing so would probably require a Black Flag operation and some Baltic Shenanigans to sway Sweden's Riksdag to go for it.

hardly, there is the admiral essen affair that nearly brought sweden in at the central side. the russian adm essen wanted to perform a neutralising action against the swedish fleet.

all you need is adm essen going through with this plan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Essen

from wiki:
Nevertheless, on 9 August 1914 Essen led part of his fleet towards Gotland to contain the Swedish navy and deliver a note of his own making which would have violated Swedish neutrality and may have brought Sweden into the war. He was ordered back before his plan could be executed.

this is very early in the war, and will have a whole load of butterflies, likely keeping italy and romania neutral (both entente)
 
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I can't imagine that in 1914 the German General Staff would be capable of putting together a plan where the goal was revoltion in Russia, indeed I'd think they would think the idea horrific even if it was possible.
 
Which is kind of strange considering it had had one not even a decade earlier and most knew the minorities in the Russian Empire were far from passive.

Why "minorities"? The Russians themselves were the ones who caused the most trouble in 1905. and who brought the Empire down in 1917.
 
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