Can A Yugoslavian Albania Be Possible?

What if Yugoslavia was awarded Albania after World War 2, Before the Yugoslavia-Soviet Split? How would this effect, the Breakup of Yugoslavia, the Yugoslav wars, and the Kosovo crisis? Would we see a larger Albania today because of this? Would Southern Albania/Northern Epirus be a autonomous region of Yugoslavia, due to its mostly Greek population?
 
Welcome to the board! Just a heads up, it would be preferred if ya just used more normal text, and maybe give an opinion yourself on the matter, but it is an interesting question.

For one, it would make the post-Yugoslav wars a good bit worse, since Albania would try to take Kosovo with it. Northern Epirus' status would be determined by who wins the Greek Civil War, since a Red Greece would end up probably having Northern Epirus handed back to it. If republican Greece wins, it could be integrated into Albania, turned into a direct territory of Yugoslavia, or even turned into a Communist Greek Taiwan of sorts.
 
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Thanks, I hope a stick around on here for a long time!

Northern Epirus' status would be determined by who wins the Greek Civil War, since a Red Greece would end up probably having Northern Epirus handed back to it.
I was thinking that with the expanded Yugoslavia, the Communists might win the Greek Civil War. Resulting in Northern Epirus getting handed over to the new Red Greece.

If republican Greece wins, it could be integrated into Albania, turned into a direct territory of Yugoslavia, or even turned into a Communist Greek Taiwan of sorts.
I was not thinking that Northern Epirus might be disputed Yugoslavia and Republican Greece. That would certainly heighten tensions in the region. Made worse if Greece joins NATO.
 
Also If Greece turns Communist, Turkey will be surrounded by three Communist countries Greece, Bulgaria and the Soviet Union. Leading to probably even more tensions. So with this little change, the entire timeline just leads into a huge case of the butterfly effect.
 
I was thinking that with the expanded Yugoslavia, the Communists might win the Greek Civil War. Resulting in Northern Epirus getting handed over to the new Red Greece.

If nothing changes between Tito and Stalin, expanded Yugoslavia might make the Greek Communists lose even faster. The regime in Yugoslavia stopped helping the Greek Communists earlier than Albania and the others.
 
Thanks, I hope a stick around on here for a long time!

I was thinking that with the expanded Yugoslavia, the Communists might win the Greek Civil War. Resulting in Northern Epirus getting handed over to the new Red Greece.

I was not thinking that Northern Epirus might be disputed Yugoslavia and Republican Greece. That would certainly heighten tensions in the region. Made worse if Greece joins NATO.

Also If Greece turns Communist, Turkey will be surrounded by three Communist countries Greece, Bulgaria and the Soviet Union. Leading to probably even more tensions. So with this little change, the entire timeline just leads into a huge case of the butterfly effect.

Great!

Red Greece in itself is a big POD. Now, there is precedent to make sure that Turkey is always, always pro-American as to avoid the Black Sea from becoming a Soviet lake. Neither Atheist Russia or Atheist Greece would care much about taking Istanbul/Konstantyyne/Constantinople/whatever they call it this week, since the recapture of Constantinople and Thrace is more of a religious aspect, but this just means that there will be even more of a push for Communist Turkey since there isn't that conflict of interest. However, that is assuming Greece falls. If it doesn't, there will be perpetual unrest in Greece--if Tito plays his cards right. Tito was an equal opportunity oppressor, the Hoxha regime targeted members of the Greek and other minority communities, along with banning all religion to try to force everyone into one boat--which failed miserably. A detached Titoist Northern Epirus could if anything become a sort of safe haven for Greek Communists, and might end up prolonging Yugoslav participation.

There would also most likely be a huge push for France to hold on to Syria, and overall an effort to make the Middle East more colonial to keep the oil flowing. The Saudis are gonna get attacked at one point or another if they try some of the stuff they did OTL, and North Yemen is going to get colonized or at the very least become a "democratic" state.
 
If nothing changes between Tito and Stalin, expanded Yugoslavia might make the Greek Communists lose even faster. The regime in Yugoslavia stopped helping the Greek Communists earlier than Albania and the others.
Ok so let's assume that the Tito-Stalin Split does happen, as it does in our timeline. Tito does help the Communists in Greece, does that effect the outcome in the Greek Civil War?
 
IOTL there were plans for a Yugoslav-Albanian union (at least up to the level of a currency union), but the Tito-Stalin Split killed that. If you delay that split, or have a different leader (like Koci Xoxe) in charge of Albania, it might work.
 
Red Greece in itself is a big POD. Now, there is precedent to make sure that Turkey is always, always pro-American as to avoid the Black Sea from becoming a Soviet lake. Neither Atheist Russia or Atheist Greece would care much about taking Istanbul/Konstantyyne/Constantinople/whatever they call it this week, since the recapture of Constantinople and Thrace is more of a religious aspect, but this just means that there will be even more of a push for Communist Turkey since there isn't that conflict of interest. However, that is assuming Greece falls. If it doesn't, there will be perpetual unrest in Greece--if Tito plays his cards right. Tito was an equal opportunity oppressor, the Hoxha regime targeted members of the Greek and other minority communities, along with banning all religion to try to force everyone into one boat--which failed miserably. A detached Titoist Northern Epirus could if anything become a sort of safe haven for Greek Communists, and might end up prolonging Yugoslav participation.

I do not see turkey reaming Pro-American for very long, if Greece falls to Communism. The Black Sea will become a "Soviet Lake" Stalin would be insanely stupid to let Turkey not fall to Communism, so there is no way that he just lets Turkey stay the way it was in our time line. Can we just call "The City Of The Worlds Desire" Istanbul, for convince? Even If the Communists lose The Greek Civil War, Greece will still fall to Communism, due to the fact that they will be surrounded by Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, And Turkey. All hostile Communist nations, however that assumes that Turkey falls to Communism before Greece, and I do not see that happening.
I do think if Greece does not fall than Northern Epirus will be a Greek Communist stronghold, no matter what.

IOTL there were plans for a Yugoslav-Albanian union (at least up to the level of a currency union), but the Tito-Stalin Split killed that. If you delay that split, or have a different leader (like Koci Xoxe) in charge of Albania, it might work.

Well I was never aware of that before. However the idea is that Yugoslavia gets Albania after World War 2 ends in 1945. Before the Tito-Stalin Split, and The Greek Civil War.
 
I do not see turkey reaming Pro-American for very long, if Greece falls to Communism. The Black Sea will become a "Soviet Lake" Stalin would be insanely stupid to let Turkey not fall to Communism, so there is no way that he just lets Turkey stay the way it was in our time line. Can we just call "The City Of The Worlds Desire" Istanbul, for convince? Even If the Communists lose The Greek Civil War, Greece will still fall to Communism, due to the fact that they will be surrounded by Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, And Turkey. All hostile Communist nations, however that assumes that Turkey falls to Communism before Greece, and I do not see that happening.
I do think if Greece does not fall than Northern Epirus will be a Greek Communist stronghold, no matter what.

In that case, either Turkey goes communist on it's own and has it's leader assassinated by American agents in the country every five years or so, or there is a Greco-Russian invasion that splits the nation. Istanbul would be the "grand prize" for Greek Nationalists, since it was ethnically greek for a while, though as I stated earlier it was at many points more or less abandoned. It all depends on what happens and if people are in the right place at the right time.

Soviet Black Sea would lead to increased American presence in the Middle East and Europe; France is going to have to get in line or become the Iran of the West.
 
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