Can a Candawank and an Ameriwank coexist?

Is it possible for a large Canada coexisting with a large America. Maybe Canada could get Alaska, Greenland, and Iceland while America gets Mexico and Central America? Both Canada and America have islands in the Caribbean? Eh? Is it possible, though. To have a coexistence of a God-like Canada and a Deity-America ruling the world as a binary power of freedom and liberalism?

Edit: I have just noticed I spelt Canada wrong on the title. My bad :)
 
Is it possible for a large Canada coexisting with a large America. Maybe Canada could get Alaska, Greenland, and Iceland while America gets Mexico and Central America? Both Canada and America have islands in the Caribbean? Eh? Is it possible, though. To have a coexistence of a God-like Canada and a Deity-America ruling the world as a binary power of freedom and liberalism?

Edit: I have just noticed I spelt Canada wrong on the title. My bad :)

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So Canada is still the frozen north while the US is still the more populous and warmer country to the south? How exactly does that equal Canada being god like?
 
So Canada is still the frozen north while the US is still the more populous and warmer country to the south? How exactly does that equal Canada being god like?

Assuming they have a far higher population, around half of the OTL US, their resources will enable them to be around the power of the USSR(as a world percentage)
So, there's that...
 
Assuming they have a far higher population, around half of the OTL US, their resources will enable them to be around the power of the USSR(as a world percentage)
So, there's that...

Why would Canada have half of otl US population, Greenland is all ice or melting ice, Alaska is a frozen tundra with a small population even today. The only real region people would settle would be otl Canada territory. As a Canadian I would love for Canada to be super power but I'm also a realist so long as the yanks are still functioning they just have a larger population and less frozen land.
 
Why would Canada have half of otl US population, Greenland is all ice or melting ice, Alaska is a frozen tundra with a small population even today. The only real region people would settle would be otl Canada territory. As a Canadian I would love for Canada to be super power but I'm also a realist so long as the yanks are still functioning they just have a larger population and less frozen land.

Well firstly I would think that if we're wanking both then Canada can take all of Oregon, and secondly, they would have that much population because we're freaking wanking them and that's a component of the wank, the mere territorial gain is not the whole wank. I dunno how you could accomplish it.
Perhaps a slower, (even) more brutal Japanese occupation in WW2 could send a lot (more) Asians to the east coast, including Canada
 
Why would Canada have half of otl US population, Greenland is all ice or melting ice, Alaska is a frozen tundra with a small population even today. The only real region people would settle would be otl Canada territory. As a Canadian I would love for Canada to be super power but I'm also a realist so long as the yanks are still functioning they just have a larger population and less frozen land.

Because you misunderstood Plumber's idea. He suggested having only the southern colonies break away, meaning Canada is now "Canada + New England + Oregon + some of the northern Mid-West", and the USA is "Greater Dixie + Cali + everything in between + Mexico and Central America" (for the wank portion).
 
Because you misunderstood Plumber's idea. He suggested having only the southern colonies break away, meaning Canada is now "Canada + New England + Oregon + some of the northern Mid-West", and the USA is "Greater Dixie + Cali + everything in between + Mexico and Central America" (for the wank portion).

I actually only meant giving Canada a bit of the Midwest and West, like Minnesota, Wisconsin, the Dakotas, Oregon. That's a Canadawank. Meanwhile the US makes up for it by absorbing more of Latin America.
 
I actually only meant giving Canada a bit of the Midwest and West, like Minnesota, Wisconsin, the Dakotas, Oregon. That's a Canadawank. Meanwhile the US makes up for it by absorbing more of Latin America.


You wouldn't even have to have that. (latin america)

An US without those, or most of those states, would still be in a position to be a superpower.
 

Thande

Donor
You wouldn't even have to have that. (latin america)

An US without those, or most of those states, would still be in a position to be a superpower.

Indeed, but 'Ameriwank' generally implies 'a US more powerful than OTL', not just 'a superpower US'.

I agree with Plumber--the most obvious way to fulfil the OP is to have a Canada that controls everything north of a line drawn from the OTL bottom of Oregon to the OTL bottom of Michigan, but then the USA goes all Decades of Darkness on Latin America (in terms of annexation, not necessarily the moustache-twirling stuff). Of course having said that, land does not equal power, but again, nationalwanks tend to assume it does.
 
If we erased the initial otl definition/differences between the US and Canada altogether with a pod and united them, we could call the bigger nation a US-Canada hybrid; it, therefore, suits well into both canadawank and ameriwank categories.
 
If we erased the initial otl definition/differences between the US and Canada altogether with a pod and united them, we could call the bigger nation a US-Canada hybrid; it, therefore, suits well into both canadawank and ameriwank categories.

Uniting them no.

BUt if you wank Canada, and have it be a more equal partner with the US, say, in the Pacific in WWII, and then in the Cold War?

Then you have a far more power US, because of it's very powerful alliance.
 
New England secedes from the United States in the early 1800s. The rest of the US expands with reckless abandon, conquering Cuba and almost all of Mexico. Canada forms as a confederation of New England and British America, including Oregon. The result is that both Canada and the United States are larger, more powerful, and have larger populations than in OTL.
 
New England secedes from the United States in the early 1800s. The rest of the US expands with reckless abandon, conquering Cuba and almost all of Mexico. Canada forms as a confederation of New England and British America, including Oregon. The result is that both Canada and the United States are larger, more powerful, and have larger populations than in OTL.

What of Louisiana?
 
New England secedes from the United States in the early 1800s. The rest of the US expands with reckless abandon, conquering Cuba and almost all of Mexico. Canada forms as a confederation of New England and British America, including Oregon. The result is that both Canada and the United States are larger, more powerful, and have larger populations than in OTL.

The problem with this is that you end up with very different Canada and United Statess.
 
How bout something like this?



America blitzes Latin America, treaties between US and Britain over US-Canadian border end up a bit differently (in Columbia and in Maine, particularly).
 

TFSmith121

Banned
Here's a question - what differentiates "Greater

Canada" from a "Super-United States" - if both are expansionist powers that rely on their military and economic strength to steamroll smaller independent states {I noticed that the Greenlanders and Icelanders are apparently "Greater Canadians" along with the Quebecois, on the above map.}

I don't think the North American continent is big enough for two such powers, frankly.

Best,
 
How bout something like this?

America blitzes Latin America, treaties between US and Britain over US-Canadian border end up a bit differently (in Columbia and in Maine, particularly).

I get Washington, Oregon and Idaho but why Montana?
 
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