Camelot Shines: JFK Survives TL

Of course Kennedy just survived an assassination and the economy is booming.
For that i say would be a landslide whatever goper would run in 64 , So gop should put a sacrificational candidate here... Plus i don't care for goldwater and if his beliefs are butterfly away the best.
 

hipper

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I don't believe policy on South East Asia was finalized in 1963 but was leaning towards withdrawal. Of course having South Vietnam fall to communism is not wanted at all and Kennedy would try to prevent this. And remember, RFK main and only goal is to protect his brother. His statements reflect this.
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I’m sure American policy for South east Asia was not finalised Policy is rarely Finalised however The American plan was clear an instruction was given to the armed forces which stated. “a phased withdrawal be completed by the end of 1965”

It’s clear and unambiguous I’m not sure why you think Kennedy would reverse his policy
 

Wallet

Banned
For that i say would be a landslide whatever goper would run in 64 , So gop should put a sacrificational candidate here... Plus i don't care for goldwater and if his beliefs are butterfly away the best.
Kennedy is a extremely heavy favorite to win. The real question is who the GOP candidate is
I’m sure American policy for South east Asia was not finalised Policy is rarely Finalised however The American plan was clear an instruction was given to the armed forces which stated. “a phased withdrawal be completed by the end of 1965”

It’s clear and unambiguous I’m not sure why you think Kennedy would reverse his policy
That's the way Kennedy is leaning but anything can happen
Remember he was still shot ITTL, meaning there will be a bunch of medical complications from the bullet on top of his Addison's.
True, but FDR lasted 12 years. He was older and not the best shape though the Great Depression and WWII
 

claybaskit

Gone Fishin'
Your off to a good start in Stead of Kennedy facing Goldwater, how about scranton? or a surprise person.kennedy tls have been done and Goldwater is always the 64 candidate,.
 

Wallet

Banned
Yeah, he's going to be in for "fun" medical times ahead.
I'm no medical expert so if someone would DM me some info I'd appreciate it
Your off to a good start in Stead of Kennedy facing Goldwater, how about scranton? or a surprise person.kennedy tls have been done and Goldwater is always the 64 candidate,.
Depends on the election. If it's expected to be a landslide then Romney or Nixon won't run. Rockefeller affair is going to pop up.
 
I wonder, would in this TL Kennedy do what all the conspiracy theories about his assassination say he wanted to do? Dissolve the CIA, deal with the FED, go with silver money ect.?
 
Remember he was still shot ITTL, meaning there will be a bunch of medical complications from the bullet on top of his Addison's.

Doesn't this depend on the nature of the injuries? Some bullet wounds can heal quickly and completely while others cause problems for the rest of one's life. One thing is known, however, and that is that JFK was in the best shape he'd been in in years when he was shot. While he was hardly the picture of perfect health -- his back always caused problems -- he was hardly debilitated, either. He was also a comparatively young man of 46 and would be 51 going on 52 when his term expired. This is not an advanced age at all. As for Addison's, that was being managed well at the time of his death. This article might be helpful as an overview of things:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2002/12/the-medical-ordeals-of-jfk/305572/
 

Wallet

Banned
I wonder, would in this TL Kennedy do what all the conspiracy theories about his assassination say he wanted to do? Dissolve the CIA, deal with the FED, go with silver money ect.?
JFK was a reformer. We will see how these reforms will impact these agencies.
Doesn't this depend on the nature of the injuries? Some bullet wounds can heal quickly and completely while others cause problems for the rest of one's life. One thing is known, however, and that is that JFK was in the best shape he'd been in in years when he was shot. While he was hardly the picture of perfect health -- his back always caused problems -- he was hardly debilitated, either. He was also a comparatively young man of 46 and would be 51 going on 52 when his term expired. This is not an advanced age at all. As for Addison's, that was being managed well at the time of his death. This article might be helpful as an overview of things:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2002/12/the-medical-ordeals-of-jfk/305572/
As of this moment, I will say JFK will survive his presidency. I'm well aware he wasn't in the best health and the shooting would complicate things but he's still young and is surrender by the best doctors on Earth.
 

claybaskit

Gone Fishin'
This will slow down or stop Robert going in to the senate butterfly chapaquedic. Robert may become a senator in 1970 then run in 76 or ted or jfk junior may run for president at alater date.
 

Wallet

Banned
Kennedy signs Clean Air Act
December 17, 1963
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Vice President LBJ signs as witness

President Kennedy signed the Clean Air Act today after passing though both houses f congress. This new law brings in massive new powers for the federal government to regulate air quality and carbon production in the United States. President Kennedy commented that a new government agency, the EPA would be created next year.

Treasury Department to print Sliver Certificates
March 1, 1964
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Last July, President Kennedy issued Executive Order 11110 that gave the Treasury Department the right to right to issue bills backed by sliver when needed. President Kennedy announced in the Rose Garden that the Treasury Department would start issuing sliver backed bills starting in January of next year. Some GOP congressman have complained this is presidential over reach and could lead to financial instability. Many political experts believe this is intended to fund an ambitious new slate of programs the President is planning.
 

Wallet

Banned
This will slow down or stop Robert going in to the senate butterfly chapaquedic. Robert may become a senator in 1970 then run in 76 or ted or jfk junior may run for president at alater date.
Ted became a senator in 1962. No one knows rather Bobby will stay in the cabinet or run for senate in 1964. Bobby will not run in 1968 thats for sure. Its likely both Kennedy brothers will wait a couple of election cycles unless they feel like they are needed. Ted will likely never run. He never wanted to be President.
 
I don't believe policy on South East Asia was finalized in 1963 but was leaning towards withdrawal. Of course having South Vietnam fall to communism is not wanted at all and Kennedy would try to prevent this. And remember, RFK main and only goal is to protect his brother. His statements reflect this.

We'll see. But he does have access to the best medical attention on the planet. He'll definitely last until 1969.

Maybe. Interesting thought.

Depends on the national mood. No republican seriously though they could win in 1964 OTL. Not even Goldwater. He used the election as a vehicule to spread his beliefs which would later take over the party. He wouldn't have gotten the nomination in 1968 even if he didn't run in 1964. ATL 1964 will be slightly more competitive so it still up in the air who gets the nomination. Of course Kennedy just survived an assassination and the economy is booming.

I'm still thinking that if Goldwater wins the GOP nomination, He'll still lose with OTL LBJ margins. Just saying.
 
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