Your Majesty: I'm always available for questions if the need arises. I'm luckier with my POD: Loony, no precautions, easily Googled.
Camelot Revisited: A Timeline
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I'm not sure you'll even know some of the stuff, though, no offense intended. It's all that pain in the butt testimony about the aftermath which is hectic and lengthy.
I may just cop out and do it in a alternate-universe book format so I can gloss over certain details since I don't think everything is necessary, and I wanna get out of this phase.
Some stuff is around the bend that I'll need some input on, though.
I may just cop out and do it in a alternate-universe book format so I can gloss over certain details since I don't think everything is necessary, and I wanna get out of this phase.
Some stuff is around the bend that I'll need some input on, though.
You should take your time. I'm sure writing a timeline isn't easy, though I have never tried it myself. Anyways, what you have written is brilliantly well-done.
Thank you.You should take your time. I'm sure writing a timeline isn't easy, though I have never tried it myself. Anyways, what you have written is brilliantly well-done.
I'm trying to write and post the update now as a matter of fact. Problem is something freezes or erases whenever I try to do it. It's been 4 times, 4, that I've had to rewrite this now since the other versions I was going to post previous got erased. Never update flash player while you have tabs open.
Your Majesty: just write it in Word, then transfer. I had many experiences like yours before I switched to the current method.
It's usually not a problem; just a pain in the butt today for some reason.Your Majesty: just write it in Word, then transfer. I had many experiences like yours before I switched to the current method.
I don't think I have any writing programs on this computer anyway.
The Search For The Killers: Continued
"Suspect is a slender white male, approximately 30 years old, 5 feet 10 inches tall, and weighing about 165 pounds."-Police Radio Broadcast
The following are excerpts from the book "JFK Must Die: November 22nd and the Attempt to Kill a President" by John Prescott.
"Suspect is a slender white male, approximately 30 years old, 5 feet 10 inches tall, and weighing about 165 pounds."-Police Radio Broadcast
The following are excerpts from the book "JFK Must Die: November 22nd and the Attempt to Kill a President" by John Prescott.
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Following the shooting, Lee Oswald hid the rifle behind a row of boxes and fled four flights of stairs via the depository's rear stairwell. Along the way, he bought a Coca-cola before continuing onward. This may seem a minor point, but it is a sign of what kind of person Lee Oswald was; that in the middle of chaos, when all others would flee in panic, Oswald was resolved enough to stop to buy a soda.
Along the way, Lee encountered Dallas police officer Marion Baker and Roy Truly, Oswald's supervisor, who identified Oswald as an employee. Officer Baker then let Oswald continue on his way. Testament to Oswald's coldness, Baker reported Oswald appeared neither nervous nor tired.
Some time later and following the police lock down of the building, Truly would note that Oswald was the only employee absent. This, coupled with the fact that Oswald fit the description many witnesses had given of the man in the sixth floor who appeared to be holding a rifle, made Oswald the prime suspect. However, Oswald had already left, in fact just moments before the police sealed off the building, and was nowhere in sight. Truly reported Oswald's name and address to the police...
...After traveling across Dallas on a bus, and then in a taxicab, Oswald stopped at the boarding house at which he held residence, at approximately 1:00 PM. As Earlene Roberts reported, Oswald kept a brisk pace, but did not run. Oswald entered his room, put on his jacket, and then left...
...As Officer Tippit worked his beat that afternoon, it was his misfortune to run into Oswald. Throughout the day, a bulletin had repeated on the police radio describing the suspect in the assassination (a slender white male, approximately 30 years old, 5 feet 10 inches tall, and weighing about 165 pounds). Tippit was driving slowly in an easterly direction on East 10th Street in Oak Cliff before pulling up alongside Oswald. Whether Tippit did this believing Oswald fit the description or for some other reason is unknown.
Oswald then walked over to Tippit's car, and exchanged words with Tippit through the open vent window. As Tippit exited the vehicle, Oswald drew his .38 caliber revolver and shot the officer, hitting him three times in the chest out of four shots fired. As Tippit was on the ground, Oswald shot the officer directly in the head.
As he left the scene, Oswald reportedly said something to the effect of "poor damn cop"...
...Minutes later, Oswald entered a shoe store managed by Johnny Brewer. Brewer, who had been listening to the news coverage of the President's shooting, noted that Oswald was acting suspiciously and hiding from police vehicles which passed.
Upon exiting the store, Brewer followed and saw Oswald enter the Texas theater without paying. Brewer alerted ticket clerk Julia Postal, who had also been listening to radio coverage of the assassination, and she phoned the police...
NEXT INSTALLMENT: PRESIDENT KENNEDY TWILIGHTS BETWEEN LIFE AND DEATH, AND OSWALD SURROUNDED.
Along the way, Lee encountered Dallas police officer Marion Baker and Roy Truly, Oswald's supervisor, who identified Oswald as an employee. Officer Baker then let Oswald continue on his way. Testament to Oswald's coldness, Baker reported Oswald appeared neither nervous nor tired.
Some time later and following the police lock down of the building, Truly would note that Oswald was the only employee absent. This, coupled with the fact that Oswald fit the description many witnesses had given of the man in the sixth floor who appeared to be holding a rifle, made Oswald the prime suspect. However, Oswald had already left, in fact just moments before the police sealed off the building, and was nowhere in sight. Truly reported Oswald's name and address to the police...
...After traveling across Dallas on a bus, and then in a taxicab, Oswald stopped at the boarding house at which he held residence, at approximately 1:00 PM. As Earlene Roberts reported, Oswald kept a brisk pace, but did not run. Oswald entered his room, put on his jacket, and then left...
...As Officer Tippit worked his beat that afternoon, it was his misfortune to run into Oswald. Throughout the day, a bulletin had repeated on the police radio describing the suspect in the assassination (a slender white male, approximately 30 years old, 5 feet 10 inches tall, and weighing about 165 pounds). Tippit was driving slowly in an easterly direction on East 10th Street in Oak Cliff before pulling up alongside Oswald. Whether Tippit did this believing Oswald fit the description or for some other reason is unknown.
Oswald then walked over to Tippit's car, and exchanged words with Tippit through the open vent window. As Tippit exited the vehicle, Oswald drew his .38 caliber revolver and shot the officer, hitting him three times in the chest out of four shots fired. As Tippit was on the ground, Oswald shot the officer directly in the head.
As he left the scene, Oswald reportedly said something to the effect of "poor damn cop"...
Upon exiting the store, Brewer followed and saw Oswald enter the Texas theater without paying. Brewer alerted ticket clerk Julia Postal, who had also been listening to radio coverage of the assassination, and she phoned the police...
NEXT INSTALLMENT: PRESIDENT KENNEDY TWILIGHTS BETWEEN LIFE AND DEATH, AND OSWALD SURROUNDED.
Yay, an update!
And I really like the picture of the book cover. Did you make that yourself?
And I really like the picture of the book cover. Did you make that yourself?
Yep. It's based on the DVD cover for "RFK Must Die" if you wanna know. And it makes the post seem longer than it actually is, since I finish it at 5 in the morning and didn't want to add anymore.Yay, an update!
And I really like the picture of the book cover. Did you make that yourself?
Thanks.
I'll get to Kennedy when I can read over the doctor's testimony. The good thing about going with this book thing (which will be used at least some times until we're done with the assassination phase) is I can just skip over and skim facts which I don't really wanna deal with, and which you can just find on wikipedia or something.
BTW, the reason I didn't just finish up the Oswald part is that it would have made things uneven in the drama. That's why the dual climaxes will come in the next post.
Thank you.I can't wait for the next installment!
I feel bad about still killing Tippit, though. I was going to let him live and capture Oswald, but again, that'd throw the dramatic balance off.
Your Majesty: I got my hands on a source which finally confirmed where Bobby would be shuffled to after the 1964 election: Assistant Secretary of State for Latin America, responsible for the Alliance of Progress. So presumably, by 1966-7, RFK will be SoS. To me, that's just a tad *interesting* to imagine...
Just when I think I'm set, you make things complicated again.Your Majesty: I got my hands on a source which finally confirmed where Bobby would be shuffled to after the 1964 election: Assistant Secretary of State for Latin America, responsible for the Alliance of Progress. So presumably, by 1966-7, RFK will be SoS. To me, that's just a tad *interesting* to imagine...
I think that would enhance the credentials quite nicely. Though I think Bobby would prefer being in the Senate for at least one term, even if he disliked it and wasn't an A student of Senate procedure IOTL. Don't see him going the GHWB route of a series of appointed positions.
You unintentionally mirrored JFK's letter of appreciation to RFK following the '60 campaign: "to Bobby, who made the easy difficult."
You unintentionally mirrored JFK's letter of appreciation to RFK following the '60 campaign: "to Bobby, who made the easy difficult."
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I won't reveal Bobby's route, but he will go to Capitol hill at some point.
...I'm going to point out right now, you will not get this timeline should I get shot.
I'll assume he doesn't get the WH rather than getting my hopes up. And this TL encompasses things like pop culture, in which I have no expertise whatsoever. Hopefully we see televised debates. No Nixonian dirty tricks are likely unless RFK himself is the candidate.
P.S.: I'm keeping an eye out for Tricky Dick. Maybe he finds out RFK wanted to put Donald Nixon in prison for the Hughes loan?
P.S.: I'm keeping an eye out for Tricky Dick. Maybe he finds out RFK wanted to put Donald Nixon in prison for the Hughes loan?
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Nixon's a good one to watch out for, but if Kennedy pulls out of Vietnam, I expect a major reaction from the hawks in the party should it fall as a result.
I won't say what Bobby will be doing, but let me say 1963-198? is pretty much the sum of the period I know what I'm going to do in, with the aftermath only vague ideas I may use and you guys can chime in when we reach that point.
I have only limited knowledge of the pop culture myself, and it varies as to what I just found out and wanna write about in my timeline, and what I end up forgetting and remembering off hand. For example, there's a little impressionist whom I'm sure none of you know a thing about who will have a longer lasting career. But anyway, this is why I have that thread set up which hasn't been replied to much yet. So you guys can help me on the pop culture things I can do once I get to the summary for the 60's, 70's, 80's, and on.
Are you talking about televised debates for 1964 or 1968?
Ya ever notice Nixon is like a cockroach in all of our TL's? You either squash him (sudden phlebitis attack, plane crash, arrested for secret talks with the North Vietnamese) or he won't go away (President, Secretary of State in "Reagan in 1968", I think he's a political talk show host in one of these, and so forth)
Roughly 37% of the public paid any attention to Vietnam, and only (if I recall correctly) about I think 20% or so of that expected any victory. The majority expected stalemate, coalition government between democrats and Communists, or for Saigon to fall. So any backlash will be muted far more than you may initially think and kept to pretty much the limited count of Curtis LeMay-types who wanted to bomb Cuba back to the stone age and opposed the partial test ban treaty citing that the Soviets would cheat by testing atomic weapons behind the Moon.
For both 1964 and 1968: The traveling town-hall meetings depend on whether Barry is the nominee. And I suspect you have some surprises in store for the GOP nomination.
Re Vietnam: I don't see any stable civilian leaders post-Diem. There's the mercenary Duong Van Minh, the right-wing Chavez Nguyen Cao Ky and the devious mediocrity Nguyen Van Thieu.
Re Vietnam: I don't see any stable civilian leaders post-Diem. There's the mercenary Duong Van Minh, the right-wing Chavez Nguyen Cao Ky and the devious mediocrity Nguyen Van Thieu.
A lot of people claim that Goldwater was run as a sacrificial lamb in a year the GOP knew it couldn't win, but I'm not so sure about that.For both 1964 and 1968: The traveling town-hall meetings depend on whether Barry is the nominee. And I suspect you have some surprises in store for the GOP nomination.
So, I really don't want to reveal what's going to happen, but you can infer from that.
On televised debates, I may need help with the specifics of just how they come to be.
I have my plans for Vietnam, but let me tell you settling on the specifics is like trying to tame a wild stallion while riding it.