Caliphate of Arabia - my attempt of TL

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I am new to this forum, so please do not stone me to death, if this will be terrible.

History of the Great Caliphate of Arabia

Chapter I: In Muscat

Fahd al-Sabah, leader of 1st Najdi Army was sitting in his tent. His men were rejoicing the grand victory
against the Sultan of Oman. He was writing a diary:
"Yesterday, we made decisive victory against the Kafir. Saif ibn Sultan II. surrendered
whole his land to our great ruler, Sultan of Sultans, Saad I. of Saudi dynasty. Now, he is awaiting his fate in his
own jail. Three hours ago, messenger arrived. He brought letter with glorious report - our brave warriors of Allah
defeated forces of Yemen and now they are advancing to the capital. Let the infidels see, what is Allah's will."

Suddenly someone entered the tent: "My lord, Sultan's emissary demands hearing."
"Let him come in, captain."
The emissary entered and sat down. And then he begun to talk.
After about thirty minutes, Fahd called for the captain.
"Report to lord al-Taleb to detach his soldiers - he is staying here as a guard."
"Yes, sir."
"And we have to rally the rest. Tomorrow, we are heading to Mecca."


Chapter II: The Ottoman Crysis

At the beginning of the 17th Century, the Ottoman Empire controlled whole Balkans, Crimea, Georgia, Turkey, Arabia
and with few exceptions whole coast of the Mediterannian Sea from Iskenderun to Oran.
And so, the desperate alliance of Austrian Archduchy and Russian Tsardom was born.
They both has interest to remove this threat once and for all.
In 1607, the campaign begun. Thousands of russian and austrian soldiers were marching towards Constantinople.
Sultan Ahmed I. could manage the two-front war, but soon the third appeared. Rebels - slavic and greek patriots
ruled by muslims for centuries decided to overthrow the Ottoman hegemony and be free once again.
In 1618, the 30-years War begun and the Habsburgs had to interrupt the Balkan Campaign and withdraw their forces for
exchange of the remnants of ottoman territories in Hungary and Croatia.
The Russians continued and after sudden death of Ahmed I., young Mustafa I. needed peace immediately to restore the
Empire. He ceded everything north of Caucasia to the Russians and paid about half of Empire's yearly income for
truce with Feodor II.
But damage was already made. Kingdom of Greece, Despotate of Serbia and Bosnia, Voivodeships of Moldova, Transylvania,
Wallachia and Bulgaria declared independence from the Empire in the Balkans. Only remaining Balkan (also European)
possessions were the City of Istanbul, Thrace and semi-independent muslim Emirate of Albania ruled by branch of
imperial family.
 
This is roughly at the apex of Ottoman power and the nadir of Russian power, since this is the tail end of Russia's Time of Troubles. How are they able to suddenly stop intruiging against each other and attack the Ottomans at their height?
 
If you read carefully, you can notice the name Feodor II, who is the nonexistent son of Feodor I. Dead of Feodor I without male heir was one of the reasons of the Time of Troubles. In this TL, the heir existed and the Time of Troubles did not.
 
If you read carefully, you can notice the name Feodor II, who is the nonexistent son of Feodor I. Dead of Feodor I without male heir was one of the reasons of the Time of Troubles. In this TL, the heir existed and the Time of Troubles did not.
Even with a Feodor II, though, I would doubt Russia's ability to have a military force drive all the way to the Ottoman Empire. The Crimean Tartars are still around, Kazaks are likely gleefully raiding the eastern frontier, Sweden looks on with greedy eyes, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth would be quite happy to jump on Russia given the chance, and Feodor I probably spent most of his time running from church to church, rather than rebuilding everything harmed during the reign of his father. There's other things closer to home to worry about before invading the Ottomans ought to be seriously considered.

The Ottomans, meanwhile, are still expanding outwards, and can whip up armies and navies at an impressive rate. The second Siege of Vienna is still seventy years away, and the empire ought to be doing quite decently at the time.
 
I don't think that situation in Ottoman Empire at the beginning of the 17th Century was so bright. Their forces were quite obsolete compared to the Europeans during that period. There were also some revolts around and if the partisans were on the side of the Austro-Russian alliance, the Empire could have serious problems.
 
I have to side with Ofaloaf on this one-the Ottomans are just too strong at this point, and the Austrians and Russians far, far too weak or just preoccupied. Don't get discouraged, there are ways around this, you just need to be creative.
 
You don't understand how this site works.

You made one (1) post. a SHORT post. You got 2 separate responses. Lots of posters would kill for that level of response!

People DO have other threads to read.
 
Omen111 you have my support. I like the idea of a rising Arabic Caliphate during the 17th century. I don't think that is too implausible, and it is certainly original. However I do agree a total collapse of the European provinces of the Ottoman empire would not happen so quickly.

The Austrians aren't in that good of a position because because the Spanish branch of the empire is going bankrupt and the protestant German princes are on the rise.

Russia is too distant during this time period and surrounded by enemies.

Why not move the POD back to the era of the Holy League in 1571. I believe in the end those forces ended up fighting the French, but perhaps after Leopanto the forces could turn into a real crusade against the Turk. That would distract the Ottomans enough for a another Islamic power to fill the gap.
 
You don't understand how this site works.

You made one (1) post. a SHORT post. You got 2 separate responses. Lots of posters would kill for that level of response!
I was thining something similar. But I am new to these parts and I thought I would let someone else say it first. I wouldn't give up just because of the two reasonable criticisms you recieved. This seems to be an interesting topic, although one that is outside my areas of strength. So hopefully you stick with it, and perhaps incoporating some of the suggestions made could make this an interesting idea.
 
Thanks for the responses - I will continue. Do not expect long posts because I am no good writer. The collapse of the Ottoman Empire is only part of historic events leading to the rise of the Caliphate. The rise itself takes place in 18th Century - it is the alternate version of Wahabi movement. I can change if you feel so. I will also rework the history of the Ottoman Crysis to make it plausible. Well, thanks once more for constructive criticisms and rallying comments.
 
There was a rebellion (one of only two I think) where a non-Ottoman attempted to displace the House of Osman and amassed significant power around this period. If you can force division of the Empire leaving the Ottomans with Anatolia+Balkans (and related vassals) then the other empire can probably become Arab dominated or twisted up into a variation of what you want.

The name of the rebel escapes me.
 
There was a rebellion (one of only two I think) where a non-Ottoman attempted to displace the House of Osman and amassed significant power around this period. If you can force division of the Empire leaving the Ottomans with Anatolia+Balkans (and related vassals) then the other empire can probably become Arab dominated or twisted up into a variation of what you want.

The name of the rebel escapes me.

Sorry I do not know about what time period are you talking. Can you explain it?


Btw, does anyone knows the military ranks of Arabian (or at least Egyptian or Ottoman) armies during 18th Century?
 
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