C&USA Alliance

It is ASB that US and CS could be friends after ACW? My timeline will have southern victory, the officer won't lose the sheet in Antietam like TL-191 but totally different alliances in WWI and WWII.
 
There's a mod for the WW2 strategy game Hearts of Iron 2 that simulates this.

Basiclly the concept is the South wins the war in 1862 due to a combination of military victories and British recognition. The South and the UK then become close friends. The Confederacy then serves as a diplomatic bridge between the UK and the USA and then fight together in both WW1 and WW2.
 
It is ASB that US and CS could be friends after ACW? My timeline will have southern victory, the officer won't lose the sheet in Antietam like TL-191 but totally different alliances in WWI and WWII.

Anything is possible. Factors including the circumstances behind the defeat of the Union; the terms of the final peace treaty which ends the war, assuming there is one; postwar Confederate and U.S. foreign policy and trade relations; and external threats faced by one or both nations, would all play a part in this situation.

I have always thought the scenario where the U.S. and the Confederacy join in World War I right from the beginning, one with the Central Powers and one with the Entente, as one of the less plausible scenarios. Both American republics would have a strong American tradition of isolationist foreign policy, and would be very reluctant to get involved in a European conflict. German submarine warfare would be, as in OTL, the most likely catalyst to draw one or both of them in. Therefore, if both of them enter the war, they most likely both fight on the side of the Allies/Entente.

Of course this is all assuming that World Wars I and II happen at all in such a timeline. In my own THE BLACK AND THE GRAY timeline, there are a couple of major world conflicts in the early 20th century, but they are not the same conflicts which occurred in OTL. They pit completely different alliance systems against each other, are fought over different issues, and have different outcomes than the OTL World War I and World War II. I think this is much more realistic than the Turtledovesque approach of following OTL almost verbatim and "changing a few of the names to protect the innocent."
 
I have always thought the scenario where the U.S. and the Confederacy join in World War I right from the beginning, one with the Central Powers and one with the Entente, as one of the less plausible scenarios.

I would too, provided that there are no further conflicts between the ACW and WW1... that was one of Turtledove's better ideas; in the 191 timeline series, he had a second war in the 1890's, again pitting the CSA/Britain/France juggernaut against the USA... thus, the hatred was kept alive. Without such a war, I don't imagine that the rivalry would go on indefinitely. However, I also don't see that the USA would take sides in WW1 either, although they'd probably gleefully sell supplies to the Allies, cash on the barrel....
 
I would too, provided that there are no further conflicts between the ACW and WW1... that was one of Turtledove's better ideas; in the 191 timeline series, he had a second war in the 1890's, again pitting the CSA/Britain/France juggernaut against the USA... thus, the hatred was kept alive. Without such a war, I don't imagine that the rivalry would go on indefinitely. However, I also don't see that the USA would take sides in WW1 either, although they'd probably gleefully sell supplies to the Allies, cash on the barrel....

I agree, when I first heard about TL-191, I began to wonder why either the US or CS would involve themselves in European conflicts. I started reading the series though, and I can see now why such international alliances occured, and hatred between the nations continued.
 
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