Is there anyway we could see Byzantium hold onto Egypt? If so, how does this effect Axum/Ethiopia?
There might be a close relationship regarding trade, cultural exchange etc. - in the tradition of earlier Greek Axumite exchange.Maybe it has a lasting affect on Orthodoxy and developement of regions like Sudan or Arabia. Either they become close partners or even rivals and military adversaries-or both. Maybe there is kind of relationship between the two Orthodox nations like the Byzantines had with the Rus ? Interesting would be lasting established diplomatic ties. We could see Ethiopian goods and merchants in Constantinoples, even a Ethiopian quarter and churches. Interesting would be also Ethiopians serving the Empire or Greeks, Armenians etc. serving the Axumite/Ethiopians.Is there anyway we could see Byzantium hold onto Egypt? If so, how does this effect Axum/Ethiopia?
How much of an effect would there be if Ethiopia had turned to Eastern Orthodoxy?There might be a close relationship regarding trade, cultural exchange etc. - in the tradition of earlier Greek Axumite exchange.Maybe it has a lasting affect on Orthodoxy and developement of regions like Sudan or Arabia. Either they become close partners or even rivals and military adversaries-or both. Maybe there is kind of relationship between the two Orthodox nations like the Byzantines had with the Rus ? Interesting would be lasting established diplomatic ties. We could see Ethiopian goods and merchants in Constantinoples, even a Ethiopian quarter and churches. Interesting would be also Ethiopians serving the Empire or Greeks, Armenians etc. serving the Axumite/Ethiopians.
How successful do you think these efforts would be?A possible consequence in being frustrated by failing to capture Egypt could be a stronger penetration southward by the Arabic world resulting in an Islamic Ethiopia; with far ranging consequences for East Africa.
Is there anyway we could see Byzantium hold onto Egypt?
A possible consequence in being frustrated by failing to capture Egypt could be a stronger penetration southward by the Arabic world resulting in an Islamic Ethiopia; with far ranging consequences for East Africa.
How much do you think Byzantium would effect aspects of Ethiopia to the modern-day?A lot of Byzantine contact with Axum will be transmitted via Makuria and Alodia. Those states OTL strayed from the Eastern Orthodox path, but with stronger Byzantine influence, who knows what might happen (along with the effect on their mother church in Egypt proper).
Not at the time when Axum was still so powerful. And if the Byzantines hold the Levant, then they've strangled a major path of expansion for the Arabs (even if they lose Carthage and Mauretania to the Berbers), and who knows how well the Sassanids are doing in this time. This could have a major impact on the Caliphate.
Even without Axum, there's still Makuria and Alodia. And Axum's defeat will fracture Ethiopia into Muslim kingdoms, Christian kingdoms, and Jewish kingdoms.
A lot of Byzantine contact with Axum will be transmitted via Makuria and Alodia. Those states OTL strayed from the Eastern Orthodox path, but with stronger Byzantine influence, who knows what might happen (along with the effect on their mother church in Egypt proper).
Not at the time when Axum was still so powerful. And if the Byzantines hold the Levant, then they've strangled a major path of expansion for the Arabs (even if they lose Carthage and Mauretania to the Berbers), and who knows how well the Sassanids are doing in this time. This could have a major impact on the Caliphate.
Even without Axum, there's still Makuria and Alodia. And Axum's defeat will fracture Ethiopia into Muslim kingdoms, Christian kingdoms, and Jewish kingdoms.
Nit pick.Is there anyway we could see Byzantium hold onto Egypt? If so, how does this effect Axum/Ethiopia?
No offense but I really couldn't care less about the name - I'm more interested in the relationship between Byzantium, Byzantine Egypt and Axum/Ethiopia if the Byzantines hold onto Egypt.Nit pick.
There was never a Byzantine Empire. There was only the Eastern Roman Empire. That annoyed 16th century western (Roman Catholic) historians so they made up the name based the small settlement that was erased by the construction of Constantinople.
Why would the Axumites expand into Kenya and Uganda?Ok. A surviving Roman Egypt means that the Arabs have failed to break out of Arabia, at least to the North and West. The Roman Navy will still be in the Red sea so Axum's access to the sea is secure and they are not driven into the Ethiopian uplands. The Horn of Africa would eventually become part of the Axum Empire as would much of what is now Kenya and Uganda. Axum would remain in contact with both Egypt and India and would inevitably develop technologies on the same level. It would probably be Axum that brings the rear mounted rudder and the compass to the western world.
They'll follow Coptic Christian missionaries seeking converts or isolated locations for monastaries. They'll also be looking for trade and raw materials and as the only "advanced" civilisation in East Africa will have little effective opposition.Why would the Axumites expand into Kenya and Uganda?
Hmm. I feel it will start off in the form of local tribes forming kingdoms and paying tribute to axum, slowly adopting their culture and marrying into nobility.They'll follow Coptic Christian missionaries seeking converts or isolated locations for monastaries. They'll also be looking for trade and raw materials and as the only "advanced" civilisation in East Africa will have little effective opposition.
They'll follow Coptic Christian missionaries seeking converts or isolated locations for monastaries. They'll also be looking for trade and raw materials and as the only "advanced" civilisation in East Africa will have little effective opposition.