Bush v Gore, 2004

Their respective Yale transcripts would beg to differ... but I agree with the importance of RRTF. Usually there is a narrative when an incumbent POTUS is dumped. In Ford's case it was Watergate and a sour national mood, Carter FUBARing and a horrible economy, Bush GOP fatigue, base alienation and a recession. What's the 2004 narrative?
 
Why are we butterflying away 9/11, Afghanistan and Iraq?

Indeed. If the 2004 election had in fact been the 2005 election, Bush would likely have been dumped. For a win in 2004 you would want to be looking at a worse situation in Iraq, a better Democratic campaign, and possibly earlier troubles internally in the administration. (Libby maybe)
 
Their respective Yale transcripts would beg to differ... but I agree with the importance of RRTF. Usually there is a narrative when an incumbent POTUS is dumped. In Ford's case it was Watergate and a sour national mood, Carter FUBARing and a horrible economy, Bush GOP fatigue, base alienation and a recession. What's the 2004 narrative?
The same narrative Grover Cleveland and Andrew Jackson used. "Re-elect Gore in 2004!"
 
The same narrative Grover Cleveland and Andrew Jackson used. "Re-elect Gore in 2004!"
Thing is, I'm not sure how well that would play outside of the Democratic base. For a lot of moderates, dredging back up a nasty political mess that most of them were glad to be done with four years ago might not play well.
 
Thing is, I'm not sure how well that would play outside of the Democratic base. For a lot of moderates, dredging back up a nasty political mess that most of them were glad to be done with four years ago might not play well.
It would probably be better than "I was for it before I was against it" though.
 
Was Gore really "more charismatic" in 2004? I seem to remember mocking his beard at some point in time.

Whoever said that a Gore win in 2004 means a Bush-Gore rematch in 2008 has really intrigued me. The Republicans don't renominate typically, but the entire narrative of 2008 would be different, assuming a minimally different from OTL Gore victory (fun and games if he wins in the same way Kerry was likely to have, by winning the electoral college but losing the popular vote). Instead of "In 2000 the economy was good and booming, and now the deficit has skyrocketed and the economy is in the trash and companies are too big to fail", it's "Remember how in 2004 we were winning Iraq and the economy was booming, and now Gore and the Democrats are trying to spend their way out of an economic catastrophe!" In such a situation Bush v Gore III would be fairly plausible, given the relative weakness of the GOP bench in OTL anyway.
 
Was Gore really "more charismatic" in 2004? I seem to remember mocking his beard at some point in time.

Whoever said that a Gore win in 2004 means a Bush-Gore rematch in 2008 has really intrigued me. The Republicans don't renominate typically, but the entire narrative of 2008 would be different, assuming a minimally different from OTL Gore victory (fun and games if he wins in the same way Kerry was likely to have, by winning the electoral college but losing the popular vote). Instead of "In 2000 the economy was good and booming, and now the deficit has skyrocketed and the economy is in the trash and companies are too big to fail", it's "Remember how in 2004 we were winning Iraq and the economy was booming, and now Gore and the Democrats are trying to spend their way out of an economic catastrophe!" In such a situation Bush v Gore III would be fairly plausible, given the relative weakness of the GOP bench in OTL anyway.
I wonder if Gore could come back in 2012? That would be something.
 
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