Bundeskanzler Franz Josef Strauß

One thing I wonder. In the sixties Strauß wanted Missiles with strategic Range for the Bundeswehr. So would he try to replace the 72 West German Pershing I with Pershing II? Would Reagan sell him the Missiles? Would the Soviets get apeshit crazy?
 
The next German in discussion. :D

Essentially, Strauß failed to gain the majority because he was too much of a polarizing and too much of a truly Bavarian-Catholic figure disgusting the cool Northerners, but this isn't the topic.

Many of the politics that Kohl continued from the Schmidt legacy (Pershing II stationings) would of course be continued by Strauß as well. He also wouldn't have done the Thatcherite agenda, to this time Germany wasn't as bad as Britain was and the C (Christ) in the CDU and CSU kept Germany's conservatives in charge of not pursuing social disarmament. The predominantly Catholic areas, CDU and CSU function as the successor of Weimar Centre and BVP parties, meaning pursuing a socially balanced realpolitik agenda. Widened into a super-confessional movement, this helped greatly to consolidate post-war democracy, by the way.

I think that the Strauß legacy would have largely gone like the first Kohl legacy in OTL. I might see the CDU/CSU winning in 1984 again, but not an absolute majority. I don't know if the moderate move to the right in the FDP would still happen without the Genscherite betrayal. But I think that the FDP would still coalite with the CDU/CSU because the lack of economic pragmatism in the SPD base would have been even more to come visible in opposition. But they might still demand another chancellor. And I remind that Kohl IOTL really favored a moderate coalition government in comparison to the fourth party plans of Franz Josef Strauß. Kohl is 54 in 1984, so age and career shouldn't be that over now.


@ Al Bundy

"Misstrauensvotum" properly translates into "motion of no confidence", as a negative to the "Vertrauensfrage" which is translated into "motion of confidence". The single difference between the terms in English is the word "no".

 
@ Dr No...
"social disarmament"?
:confused:

the Federal Republic of Germany is social securty staate
means the staat give money to keep price of medical servis low
help Unemployed or families with many children with financial support.

onder goverment of Chancellor Gerhard Schröder
were made heavy reform on social securty staate structur
called by the victims and opposition "social disarmament"
 
the Federal Republic of Germany is social securty staate
means the staat give money to keep price of medical servis low
help Unemployed or families with many children with financial support.

onder goverment of Chancellor Gerhard Schröder
were made heavy reform on social securty staate structur
called by the victims and opposition "social disarmament"

Ah... thank you. That's an interesting image!
 
Here's another gruesome fact: FJS happened to be a Nationalsozialistischer Führungsoffizier in WWII, the nazi-pendant to Soviet commisars.
 
I don't know if the moderate move to the right in the FDP would still happen without the Genscherite betrayal.

The FDP moved to the right because their left wing, well, left the party after 1982. This includes people like Verheugen, Matthäus-Meier, and the Jungdemokraten, their youth organisation.
 
So this left exodus isn't to happen until the FDP practically considers coalition with CDU/CSU? First then? Or even not then? At the time of the Schmidt III cabinet, the FDP drafted a wish list of economic reforms that were even too much for Schmidt at that time and they were akin to Schröder's Agenda 2010 more than twenty years later.

So is the move to the right of the FDP inevitable even without Genschering [1] procedure?



[1] For non-Germans and those too young, "Genschering" means to change the sides to avoid the own end with the bigger sinking ship, just as Genscher and his FDP did with the Genscherite betrayal of 1982.
 

oberdada

Gone Fishin'
OTL:
SPD 42,6%
Union 44,5%
F.D.P. 10,6%
Greens 1,5%
NPD 0,2%
KPD 0,2%
rest definetly irrelevant

So the Union would need to get at least 5% from SPD and/or the liberals to win, not very likely.

BUt if Strauss has even a smal minority its getting interesting.
The social democtrats will definetly move left, Helmut Schmidt wouldn't likely play an important part anymore.
Tough time for the Greens, BUT htey might move to the right instead, becoming more what the ÖDP is today and
if Strauss gets unpopular enough they might make it in 1984.
the FDP would have a tougher standing in the opposition than today, they will move to the political right, either economicaly ultra-liberal criticism of the Strauss Government, or become a nationalistic-popular party like the FPÖ in OTL (this would likely butterfly away the success of the republicans and the DVU in the late 80s, early 90s).

But I can't see Strauss winning again in 1984, the CSU is also likely to loose a lot of votes in the October 1982 Bavarian election.
By the way, who would succeed Strauss in Bavaria?
 
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