Building the Mirror Trekverse

[The Professor]

NB not a TL attempt just some ideas and discussion over how the Mirror Star Trek universe comes to be.

The Mirror Trekverse is a parallel not alternate universe. That is it was never the same universe as the Trekverse but developed in parallel. Perhaps it is some sort of metaquantum pairing.

In it Humans are shown as more obedient to authority than STTL and less inclined to mercy. They are almost the epitome of OTL Roman citizens
States are thus slightly larger than OTL and less inclined to revolution. Though ends of states are more bloody.


Some thoughts on the TL:

Satrap Alexander of Macedon overthrows Darius to become Monarchos of the Aryan Empire...
Alexander's son Phillip assassinates his siblings to become Alexander's sole heir...
The assassination of Phillip leads the (Macedonian) Aryan Empire to disintegrate into rival states...
The Romans overthrow their hereditary Kings and replace them with elected Dictators...
Julius Caesar establishes himself as sole Roman Dictator and Imperator...
Imperator Constantine adapts the Roman Pantheon as aspects of a monotheistic god (the Joves)...
Collapse of Roman Imperium...
Charlemagne establishes the Frankish Imperium as a Roman successor...
England creates the British Imperium...
Capital of British Imperium shifts to North America...
Eugenics movement fails as the Augments prove unwilling to be soldiers and more inclined to peaceful manipulation...
WWIII establishes the Terran Imperium over most of Earth...
Vulcan survey ship hijacked...
Terran Empire heads into space conquers Vulcan etc...

 

[JSmith]

Im all for a Star Trek ATL-even if it is a ATL Star Trek ATL -that has a historical POD and doesn't try the shoehorn or the retcon-good ideas.

 

[Garrison]

Thing that strieks me about the Mirror Universe as presented in TOS and Enterprise is that the Terran Empire seems to have underlying structure, it's simply a dog eat dog existence. It's great for 45 minutes of TV but as infrastructure for an advanced technological society it has flaws. heck the Klingon Empire has more structure than the Terrans!

I would imagine that there would either have to be some sort of equivalent of a nobility and some sort of Imperial bureaucracy that keeps things running despite the frequent changes at the top.

 

[The Professor]

Thing that strieks me about the Mirror Universe as presented in TOS and Enterprise is that the Terran Empire seems to have underlying structure, it's simply a dog eat dog existence. It's great for 45 minutes of TV but as infrastructure for an advanced technological society it has flaws. heck the Klingon Empire has more structure than the Terrans!

I would imagine that there would either have to be some sort of equivalent of a nobility and some sort of Imperial bureaucracy that keeps things running despite the frequent changes at the top.

Actually the Klingon command structure as depicted in TNG seems roughly similar to that of the Terran Empire.

In how I see the TE people advance by sponsorship or "dead man's shoes".
If you think you can challenge your superior you do so. If you win his underlings follow you now. If you lose you pay the price...
I tend to see the Terrans as more obedient to authority and they don't challenge someone who is obviously superior (though the definition of that superiority is open to question)

 

[Tim Thomason]

Actually the Klingon command structure as depicted in TNG seems roughly similar to that of the Terran Empire.

In how I see the TE people advance by sponsorship or "dead man's shoes".
If you think you can challenge your superior you do so. If you win his underlings follow you now. If you lose you pay the price...
I tend to see the Terrans as more obedient to authority and they don't challenge someone who is obviously superior (though the definition of that superiority is open to question)

One main difference: In the Klingon Empire, you can *honorably* challenge your commander to a fight-to-the-death, and if you win, you get his job. If you lose, you die or he keeps you alive and you're ridiculed.

In the Terran Empire, you apparently can kill/imprison/poison your commander secretly and take his job and this appears to be an accepted means of advancement. You try that on a Klingon starship, you'll wind up being slaughtered by the crew.