Buddha does not become Buddha

It's possible yes, though I'd argue that in regards to the Jewish people in the modern age, they're hardly going to face expulsion now are they. And I sincerely doubt they're going to be causing unrest or trouble, not that they did before.

I should hope not! But there were plenty of times when Jewish people were welcome and found acceptance somewhere....for awhile. Its a human problem constant in history. Even the Tang Dynasty eventually started expelling foreigners and persecuting other religions. No matter how cosmopolitan, the ugly head of nationalism and orthodoxy will rear their heads somewhere.

At the very least, the modern world has definitely made some improvements. But we're still half barbaric savages at heart. True global unity will be a challenge indeed. But one I think can be done very soon. The world has a global economy, a global culture (I daresay, that almost any culture on Earth right now has more in common with each other than any culture two centuries ago), and a global forum/political leadership (kind of. Its nascent).
 
I should hope not! But there were plenty of times when Jewish people were welcome and found acceptance somewhere....for awhile. Its a human problem constant in history. Even the Tang Dynasty eventually started expelling foreigners and persecuting other religions. No matter how cosmopolitan, the ugly head of nationalism and orthodoxy will rear their heads somewhere.

At the very least, the modern world has definitely made some improvements. But we're still half barbaric savages at heart. True global unity will be a challenge indeed. But one I think can be done very soon. The world has a global economy, a global culture (I daresay, that almost any culture on Earth right now has more in common with each other than any culture two centuries ago), and a global forum/political leadership (kind of. Its nascent).

I'd not call nationalism bad, there's nothing wrong with being proud of your country, and knowing your history. A global economy yes, but we must be careful not to erode those things which make each nation a nation.
 
I'd not call nationalism bad, there's nothing wrong with being proud of your country, and knowing your history. A global economy yes, but we must be careful not to erode those things which make each nation a nation.

Oh I doubt that would happen. China is a living breathing example of something like 5000 years of Supranationalism. From the Huaxia Confederacy to the People's Republic, it's all pretty much a union of distinct cultures, languages, peoples and nations.

The European Union, the United States of America, even the United Kingdoms are later examples of Suprenationalism.

It can be done, and it can probably be done in a nicer and more respectful way than how we did it before in the past. As long as its done in peace. I am not advocating a war of conquest or whatever. But the world is becoming a smaller place. That's good in my opinion.

Edit: Sorry if I am going off on a tangent.
 
Oh I doubt that would happen. China is a living breathing example of something like 5000 years of Supranationalism. From the Huaxia Confederacy to the People's Republic, it's all pretty much a union of distinct cultures, languages, peoples and nations.

The European Union, the United States of America, even the United Kingdoms are later examples of Suprenationalism.

It can be done, and it can probably be done in a nicer and more respectful way than how we did it before in the past. As long as its done in peace. I am not advocating a war of conquest or whatever. But the world is becoming a smaller place. That's good in my opinion.

European Union's a mish mash of states that are confined within bureaucracy and an increasingly out of touch one at that aha, but fair.

And aye.
 
I’m early twenties myself though I feel we are getting a bit off the point of the thread here.

Would Zoroastrianism influence an Indian Empire? I mean, there is a strong significance of fire in Zoroastrianism, which could be correlated to the sun
 
I wonder if Ajivika could remain more prominent in this timeline, rather than dying out as in OTL. It lasted to the 14th Century in some parts of India as it was.

Of course, given that most of our sources for this religion are critical sources from Buddhists and Jains (including one where the Jain founder has a magic duel with the Ajivika founder Gosala), exactly what they believed is a bit ambiguous. No Ajivika sources survive.
 
Of course, given that most of our sources for this religion are critical sources from Buddhists and Jains (including one where the Jain founder has a magic duel with the Ajivika founder Gosala), exactly what they believed is a bit ambiguous. No Ajivika sources survive.

That reminds me of several Buddhist refutations of other philosophical stances for which we have no context because those schools of thought went extinct.
 
Interesting, this does raise other questions such as whether the three lions would ever develop into a symbol for India. Whether chanakya and chandraguota ever rise and whether the nanda are ever a thing
 
Wow the idea of Siddhartha Gautama not becoming Buddha makes me sad. Imagining a world without Buddhism is a dark place. Maybe Jainism could take its place.
 
I'm not sure. I don't think it would really make it outside of India, but if it is sufficiently altered, it could become the dominant religion in India.

Not that Buddhism became the dominant religion either, but it made such a tremendous impact that Hinduism later tried to incorporate Buddhism into itself to close the gap on the cognitive dissonance of how such a "heresy" nearly drowned the local religions. Hence why some Hindus traditionally regard the Buddha as the 9th Avatar of Vishnu.

Scientific Potential
Indian religions also carried very strong scientific potential if developed further. I dare say in OTL they have had an impact, probably via Buddhism along the Silk Road and the merging with Western philosophy. But in TTL, even if Jainism replaces Buddhism, there is still strong potential there.

Interesting thing about Jainism is that it has one the most developed Atomic theory of all of the ancient philosophies. That is, they included subatomic particles and positive and negative charges.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jain_philosophy#Atomism


Buddhism however, also have Kalapas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalapa_(atomism)
 
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