British Imperial Federation

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The British succeed in their invasion of the River Plate, seizing what would OTL become Argentina and Uruguay. Continued streams of immigrants from all over the western world over the following century eventually lead to an English-speaking majority there. Attempts to take Cordoba however fail, and a new, Spanish-speaking nation develops there instead.

Britain also takes Florida and Louisiana during the Napoleonic Wars. However, doing so creates a recurring enemy out of the Americans. Four further wars are fought against the USA in the coming century - one over the Puget Sound, which Britain wins; one over control of New Orleans, which the Americans win; one over Atlantic trade, taking place at the same time as a rebellion of American slave owners, which ends in status quo ante bellum, and a last one over control of Hawaii, which Britain wins (and where they take several Far Eastern holdings, desired mainly by Canadian whaling companies, from the Russians).

In South Africa meanwhile, the Zulus never become preeminent, thus there is no Mfecane, thus keeping a high native population instead of a depopulated countryside. This leads the local Boers to staying in place south of the Orange river. Independence is granted to most non-white areas in the 20th century, leaving whites and mixed-race peoples a narrow majority in the remaining territory. South Africa is probably the place with the worst and most acute racial politics in the whole Federation.

India was the jewel of the Empire, but the violent and protracted rebellion at the beginnig of the 20th century eventually kicked the British out. Frightened to death by the result, the Empire's elites came together and crafted a new way of organizing the far-flung Empire, giving representation to all territories in a new, federal parliament that managed foreign policy, defense, trade policy, monetary policy along with limited areas of responsibility regarding taxation and civil rights. While several areas, such as Guiana, chose independence, most decided to stick together, albeit occasionally by narrow margins.

(They also acquired Danish colonial holdings at some point, and also built a canal in Panama)

Imperial Parliament representation:
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Ruled since the early 18th century by the House of Hanover (who now only enjoys ceremonial powers) and currently boasting the 5th largest population on Earth (though bound to be overtaken by Brazil, Pakistan and Nigeria within the century) and the 3rd largest GDP (behind the USA and recently surpassed by China as well), the British Imperial Federation is one of the worlds leading super-powers. Despite numerous problems and wide discrepancies, it nonetheless provides a high standard of living for its citizens and champions the causes of freedom, democracy, liberalism and free-market enterprise coupled with a strong welfare state.

So, can such a state hold together?
 
I'll tell you one thing: Most settler colonies existed in order to drop off excess population causing to much trouble at home. Let's say there's an Argentina-style crisis in oversea Britain, may would flock to the Home Islands or elsewhere inside that Federation. I can see a lot of nativist sentiment boiling up and there may be even calls from some, you know, Brexit from the Empire.
 
1. Guessing you took this from the original proposition about the Imperial Federation.

2. Recommend you put other nations in, as the map looks a bit odd.

3. What about the Arabian colonies e.g. Yemen, Kuwait and Dubai?

3. I love it! Great job!
 
Let's say there's an Argentina-style crisis in oversea Britain, may would flock to the Home Islands or elsewhere inside that Federation. I can see a lot of nativist sentiment boiling up and there may be even calls from some, you know, Brexit from the Empire.
Could you please clarify this part?


1. Guessing you took this from the original proposition about the Imperial Federation.
I've been mulling this for a long time myself. Even started a thread about Britain keeping Florida & Louisiana.

2. Recommend you put other nations in, as the map looks a bit odd.
No time. You can do it though - be creative, but realistic.

3. What about the Arabian colonies e.g. Yemen, Kuwait and Dubai?
Part of the Greater Hashemite Caliphate which swept the Arab world in the aftermath of the Ottoman Empire's collapse.

3. I love it! Great job!
Thx

Why on Earth would Britain take Kamchatka?
Conflict with Russia & for whaling (and later mining)
 
Anyone have any further thoughts on this?

1. Don't bump without content. I learnt the lesson the hard way.

2. Mate, Is this for a game/mod for a game? It feels like it

3. How powerful are they in comparison to the other states of the world? Speaking of which, where are they, and any notable ones?
 
I think Malta and Gibraltar might be a bit peeved they are only represented by one MP. Otherwise, interesting. What is Kamchatka's population?
 
I think Malta and Gibraltar might be a bit peeved they are only represented by one MP. Otherwise, interesting.

Everyone gets an MP for roughly 360k people, with the Home Islands having a very minor edge at 357k and Singapore getting the short end of the stick at 373k.

Meanwhile, Malta+Gibraltar+Cyprus have one MP for 481k, which is much worse, but the problem is that if I gave them two, they would be, by far, the most advantage place of all. Doesn't really make that much of a difference in the end either way though.


What is Kamchatka's population?
OTL, its ~322k. However, I assumed there would be far, far less immigration from Canada ITTL than from Russia OTL, so only had 55% of the initial number.
 
Do Australian states and Canadian provinces exist in this TL? Do they have self government?
I figure yes.

Also Northern Ireland, Wales, Scotland, the Greater London Area and England all have devolved powers as well.

Also, MPs are elected based on a mixed-member proportional representation system
 
Surely devolved places might as well be devolved directly from the federation why be devolved from the government of the home islands
 
Surely devolved places might as well be devolved directly from the federation why be devolved from the government of the home islands
Because then I would lack the necessary time and interest to track all the little sub-divisions :p
 
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I've always felt this is pretty easy to do with the right PoD. The creation of Canada kind of set the tone for all the other colonies eventual independence so if they can tie Canada to the British crown when it unites (perhaps getting it to be a kingdom) and get an imperial parliament going in the 1890s-1900s you could start binding the disparate pieces together a bit instead of what happened historically.

I do think that the British Arab states could very well end up joining, and the Miskito Coast of Nicaragua could be the terminus of a British trans - American canal instead of Panama.
 
2. Mate, Is this for a game/mod for a game? It feels like it
No, it's not. You can use it as such if you want to, though.


3. How powerful are they in comparison to the other states of the world? Speaking of which, where are they, and any notable ones?
Never really planned anything regarding other states, other than assuming there would be no world wars. But let's say Europe looks something like this:

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What is certain is that the US is most likely worse off militarily and economically, on account of not having Alaska, Florida, Hawaii and most of Washington state.
 
I do think that the British Arab states could very well end up joining, and the Miskito Coast of Nicaragua could be the terminus of a British trans - American canal instead of Panama.

Would the Arabs welcome the kind of secular laws that would eventually become the norm across the federation though?
 
Would the Arabs welcome the kind of secular laws that would eventually become the norm across the federation though?

It really depends on how the world shakes out. A wealthier Britain that hasn't fled the colonial scene wholesale is in a far better position that what happened historically. It would be decades after the PoD so I guess you'd have to see what ended up going down with the Arabs and the Ottomans first, and then British Arab policy in Aden and the Trucial States.

It could just as easily go poorly though.
 
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