Britannian Empire

hey, im trying to figure out what the maximum extent of my TL's equivalent of the british empire (inspired by Britannia from code geass) could be. some vital changes ive made thus far are:

  • the greater part of continental canada goes to the US, but britain keeps quebec and the general area around it as well as the canadian arctic archipelago
  • they keep jamaica
  • britain, wales, scotland, and ireland are all merged into one administrative district
  • the dominion of south africa is reduced due to the presence of a lasting boer republic but includes the southern part of botswana
  • nigeria, ghana, sierra leone, and sri lanka remain british
  • australia, new zealand, and some islands immediately east of papua new guinea (but excluding new guinea itself) remain british
  • greenland is currently a british possession, but i cant quite remember why i made it so
some ideas for possible expansion (im trying to firmly cast Britannia as a colonial superpower here along with france, and being on par with other world powers like russia, china, and the US) include giving them all or part of india, giving them the greater part of continental africa (up to zaire, at least), and making some countries into british protectorates against france or other powers, and therefore included in the empire (or something like that) even though they are independent powers. among said protectorates would probably be denmark-norway (and by extension greenland and possibly iceland) and argentina, chile, and uruguay

any help here? im trying to make it so that, while truly independent states exist, they are few and far between ad the world is instead dominated by about a dozen empire-unions/superstates
 
nearly 150 views and no input? i decided to go ahead and give my ATL british some more territory. their empire now comprises:

  1. the british isles
  2. the region around quebec
  3. the arctic archipelago
  4. jamaica
  5. the falklands
  6. sierra leone, ghana, and nigeria
  7. "british equatorial africa" (OTL congo, zaire, CAR, uganda, and kenya)
  8. the dominion of south africa
  9. sri lanka (as their gateway to trade with india, since theyve lost all colonial influence in continental asia)
  10. singapore
  11. the solomon islands
  12. australia
  13. new zealand
  14. the denmark-norway protectorate
 

Anaxagoras

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britain, wales, scotland, and ireland are all merged into one administrative district

This is fine except where law and education are concerned. According to the 1707 Treaty of Union between England and Scotland, the legal and educational systems of Scotland shall remain forever independent.
 
A map would be very useful.
ive attached a map of britannia in the ATL. the empire and the denmark-norway protectorate are shown in pale red. blank white area is still up for grabs in terms of making the map but i could very well reassign some other territory to britannia
This is fine except where law and education are concerned. According to the 1707 Treaty of Union between England and Scotland, the legal and educational systems of Scotland shall remain forever independent.
that seems to be a comparatively minor situation for all this; it could simply be reasoned that that never happened or was overturned or that they simply end up better off being part of a superpower nation

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that seems to be a comparatively minor situation for all this; it could simply be reasoned that that never happened or was overturned or that they simply end up better off being part of a superpower nation

Overturned, nope probably would have caused riots if not outright rebellion. Us Scots have always been proud of our educatiuon sytem and justice system. Next you'll try and make the Church of England, the Church of Britain and ban the Church of Scotland.:eek:
 
ITTL...why not? i said britannia was powerful, not that it was domestically perfect :rolleyes: im still more concerned with simply figuring out its maximum extent here, though
 
britain, wales, scotland, and ireland are all merged into one administrative district

Wales, Scotland and Ireland are all parts of the British Isles.

Scotland and Wales are part of Great Britain

Wales and England are part of Britain.

By the 1st century BC Britannia was being used to refer to Great Britain specifically, due to the Roman conquest and the subsequent establishment of the Roman province of Britannia, which eventually came to encompass the part of the island south of Caledonia (roughly, Scotland).

I think you mean England.
 
ITTL...why not? i said britannia was powerful, not that it was domestically perfect :rolleyes: im still more concerned with simply figuring out its maximum extent here, though

Well if their is communisim in your timeline and let's say it's 1900, have you ever heard of the Red Clyde. You could end up with a Scottish Worker's Rebellions, which due to there being more people could end up worse than the Irish Civil War.

Also to have a USA you wouldn't be able to butterfly the Act of Union away otherwise Scotlandwould be independant, and if England tries to annaxe her it takes time away from the wars England needs to fight to control the East Coast which would butterfly the USA away.

Just my attempt at helping our timeline.:)

The British Scotsman
 
About the map.

You united France and most of Germany and all they get is a piddily bit of the Sahara!:mad::mad::mad:

You sir a cad of the highest water, I shall be reporting this to the Lord Deputy Chairman of Historical Butterflies and Other Alternate-Historical Paraphenalia!
 
Well if their is communisim in your timeline and let's say it's 1900, have you ever heard of the Red Clyde. You could end up with a Scottish Worker's Rebellions, which due to there being more people could end up worse than the Irish Civil War.

Also to have a USA you wouldn't be able to butterfly the Act of Union away otherwise Scotlandwould be independant, and if England tries to annaxe her it takes time away from the wars England needs to fight to control the East Coast which would butterfly the USA away.

Just my attempt at helping our timeline.:)

The British Scotsman
communist rebellions in scotland? i like it. there's no soviet union ITTL, but socialism does still exist, so why not? maybe scotland will maintain independent education, but i dunno. not too sure about those US comments

About the map.

You united France and most of Germany and all they get is a piddily bit of the Sahara!:mad::mad::mad:

You sir a cad of the highest water, I shall be reporting this to the Lord Deputy Chairman of Historical Butterflies and Other Alternate-Historical Paraphenalia!
hi, uh, there's still some territory that france could take. at the moment, im mainly trying to figure out what territories britain could take to emphasize its superpower status

im thinking of giving ethiopia and somalia to the arab league analogue. thoughts on that? and zambia and zimbabwe are still up in the air: theyll go to either britain or portugal\

and any thoughts on a british argentina, chile, and uruguay? my thought is that they rebel against spain and get help from britain, but are weak and become protectorates, so they become british in all but name
 
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