Yes it can, only requires a POD in the 1200's. Some possibilities would be Dafydd ap Gruffydd dying early or perhaps just not turning against his brother Llywelyn so often, or an early death of Edward I. Perhaps both, perhaps Owain ap Gruffydd angers his younger brother Llywelyn enough that Llywelyn kills him, or possibly just kills him in battles, leading to Dafydd being shocked into obedience and having enough trust placed in him that Llywelyn gives him command of the Welsh forces at the Battle of Evesham. This can lead to the Welsh contingent there actually committing to the battle from the start instead of attempting to flee, which results in a more two-sided bloodbath than the bloodbath of OTL, which sees both Prince Edward and his father Henry III being killed alongside many earls and knights and England being thrown into anarchy while Llywelyn gets to enjoy the peace not having a treacherous brother and angry rival princes. Llywelyn ap Gruffydd was a reformer with the same mind and skill as his grandfather Llywelyn ap Iorwerth and the two of them had important ideas that would result in a more stable and affluent Principality of Wales. Llywelyn the Last (not so ITTL of course) even got the King of England to recognize him as the Prince of Wales at one point which was unprecedented, only Llywelyn's uncle had claimed that title before and he was unrecognized by Henry. However, before Evesham Llywelyn was successful enough in his wars that Henry had to recognize his rule over most of Wales even if Llywelyn had to pay some tribute. With a new anarchy in England however this might be left ignored and Llywelyn would be free to stomp all over his rival Powysian princes as well as the perfidious Marcher Lords while pro-Royal and pro-Baron nobles and armies continue to harass each other in the beginnings of the uncertain reign of King Edmund I.Wales cant be independent without a POD before 1066 (at least).
I know of this time, but I imagined that there were enough Marcher Lords that any Welsh Rebellion would last only a few years, and eventually be reannexed into England. How do you imagine a Wales founded it that time would be linguistically?Yes it can, only requires a POD in the 1200's. Some possibilities would be Dafydd ap Gruffydd dying early or perhaps just not turning against his brother Llywelyn so often, or an early death of Edward I. Perhaps both, perhaps Owain ap Gruffydd angers his younger brother Llywelyn enough that Llywelyn kills him, or possibly just kills him in battles, leading to Dafydd being shocked into obedience and having enough trust placed in him that Llywelyn gives him command of the Welsh forces at the Battle of Evesham. This can lead to the Welsh contingent there actually committing to the battle from the start instead of attempting to flee, which results in a more two-sided bloodbath than the bloodbath of OTL, which sees both Prince Edward and his father Henry III being killed alongside many earls and knights and England being thrown into anarchy while Llywelyn gets to enjoy the peace not having a treacherous brother and angry rival princes. Llywelyn ap Gruffydd was a reformer with the same mind and skill as his grandfather Llywelyn ap Iorwerth and the two of them had important ideas that would result in a more stable and affluent Principality of Wales. Llywelyn the Last (not so ITTL of course) even got the King of England to recognize him as the Prince of Wales at one point which was unprecedented, only Llywelyn's uncle had claimed that title before and he was unrecognized by Henry. However, before Evesham Llywelyn was successful enough in his wars that Henry had to recognize his rule over most of Wales even if Llywelyn had to pay some tribute. With a new anarchy in England however this might be left ignored and Llywelyn would be free to stomp all over his rival Powysian princes as well as the perfidious Marcher Lords while pro-Royal and pro-Baron nobles and armies continue to harass each other in the beginnings of the uncertain reign of King Edmund I.
Some of the most prominent Marchers were present at Evesham and possibly would have died ITTL. Also, it doesn't seem they could take on a united Wales on their own given the massive defeats inflicted on them at this time. Also, reannexed? Wales was only conquered completely in 1282/3. Before then they just had a few loyal princes (most prominently the Prince of Powys Wenwynwyn as the other state of Powys was friendly to Gwynedd) and at the time I am referring to Llywelyn and his allies orchestrated a large-scale assault on English holdings that resulted in his recognition as Prince of Wales by the King of England. This wasn't a rebellion, I don't see how it qualifies when it was already independent.I know of this time, but I imagined that there were enough Marcher Lords that any Welsh Rebellion would last only a few years, and eventually be reannexed into England. How do you imagine a Wales founded it that time would be linguistically?
The trouble is if you keep things too disunited then as the centuries go on some foreign leader will eventually decide to make himself king of Britain and the disunited land won't really be able to stop him.
They seemed to be able to stop the Vikings in the great army period, but then again, that forced them to unite into one kingdom.
They seemed to be able to stop the Vikings in the great army period, but then again, that forced them to unite into one kingdom.