Britain beats the 13 rebel colonies

NIK PARMEN

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What's the consequences? no enlightment? no French revoluton? a US more like Canada?

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*starts convulsing*

OH, THE ANACHRONISMS...

Let's start at the beginning:

The leaders would have been killed in whatever creative way the UK desired.
The colonies would have been militarily occupied for a decade or so, with severe restrictions on the people.
No, "'U.S.' more like Canada", but a united British North America.

Now for the picture:
The White House didn't even begin construction until 1792, so you'd not only have to have the war last much longer, but you'd have to have the rebels smash bricks over their heads one evening and say,

"Know what? This whole thing is going so well, even though we're going to lose, that we should build a mansion for our future president... in a swamp! Let's do it!"

Oh, and the flag is incorrect. The Cross of Ireland wouldn't have been a part of the Union Jack yet.
 
wow that is a really disproportionality large union jack compared to the WHOLE BUILDING.

The consequences are too far spred to forsee in one post, but there are several timelines which deal with it.

Also IMHO the American Revolution is overplayed as a cause to the enlightenment.
 
wow that is a really disproportionality large union jack compared to the WHOLE BUILDING.
Without the loss of the Americans, I suppose the Brits keep some of their ballsier attitudes in the Union.

"So wha' it's big!? Guess wha' else's big!? Our f**kin' Dominion, that's wha'! Bugger off ya' Scot lovin' wanker!"
 
Well.. if they lose.. whats to say they won't just revolt even more so than they did at a later time. If some American leaders escape, and if Britain starts clamping down on the Colonies to extreme points.. you never know.
 
If the UK had won then in the future Spain might have had to make a deal with the UK. which they sort of actually did with the US. Also think the UK. would have been less agressive in negotiations since the UK. was in europe. US needed to be more agressive since they were in the Americas and next to all these territories.

Looking at the map, all of Oregon North of the 42 parallel would be UK.. But the line would continue all the way East via the Louisiana territory up to Illinois. So the Northern Louisiana territory would be UK.. Since the UK. would control most of the east side of the Mississippi river they would also want to control at least the east bank of the mouth of the Mississippi. So Spain might also have to give up New Orleans which was on the East side of the river.

Spain might be able to keep the florida Peninsula from Pensacola going East. West of Pensacola to the city of New Orleans would be UK.

Map:
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If the UK had won then in the future Spain might have had to make a deal with the UK. which they sort of actually did with the US. Also think the UK. would have been less agressive in negotiations since the UK. was in europe. US needed to be more agressive since they were in the Americas and next to all these territories.

Looking at the map, all of Oregon North of the 42 parallel would be UK.. But the line would continue all the way East via the Louisiana territory up to Illinois. So the Northern Louisiana territory would be UK.. Since the UK. would control most of the east side of the Mississippi river they would also want to control at least the east bank of the mouth of the Mississippi. So Spain might also have to give up New Orleans which was on the East side of the river.

Spain might be able to keep the florida Peninsula from Pensacola going East. West of Pensacola to the city of New Orleans would be UK.

If the colonial rebellion of 1775 is put down then the Florida Peninsula remains British, which it had been since 1763. I wonder if/how-long Louisiana might remain in Spanish hands in such a TL?
 
If the colonial rebellion of 1775 is put down then the Florida Peninsula remains British, which it had been since 1763. I wonder if/how-long Louisiana might remain in Spanish hands in such a TL?

Not very, since New Orleans would eventually be a focus of an attack in whatever equivalent the Great French War would have... just one more colony ripe for the pluckin'.
 
If the UK had won then in the future Spain might have had to make a deal with the UK. which they sort of actually did with the US. Also think the UK. would have been less agressive in negotiations since the UK. was in europe.

Let's ask the Indians if Britain was less aggressive for being in Europe. Britain actually had Florida at this point.
 
Would Britain have wanted to win? To maintain an active army with various mercenary contingents to pacify people fellow anglo-saxons.

I would prefer a timeline in which the British were more politically and economically savvy, so the colonies get their self-determination within a greater British Empire.
 

Susano

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Interesna. How so?

Those were allied troops put under British command. Really not different than the contributions of several smaller states to Iraq and Afghanistan these days, many of which also get paid handsomely for doing so, just like Hesse-Kassel was. The difference really is that it were official troops of a souvereign state, instead of private troops offering their service - the latter is what mercenaries are.
 
Those were allied troops put under British command. Really not different than the contributions of several smaller states to Iraq and Afghanistan these days, many of which also get paid handsomely for doing so, just like Hesse-Kassel was. The difference really is that it were official troops of a souvereign state, instead of private troops offering their service - the latter is what mercenaries are.

I do see the distinction, but they were paid for en masse by the British government, it's just use of another state as contractor. These are units which probably wouldn't have existed were not for the relationship with Britain, which is a little different from say the Georgian deployment to Iraq.


There is an irony of course. The use of German troops was seen in Britain as a way to maintain liberty as it negated the need for standing armies. Those same troops were then used by German rulers to maintain autocracy. And they were seen as a symbol of oppression by the Americans.
 
This makes no sense.
Union: United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland (Act of Union, 1801)
Ballsier: The haughty bull dog American spirit within the dominion of the British Empire.


This is anti-sense. A piece the size of a penny can actually destory Belgium.

Seriously: what are you trying to say???
You're newbishness in this area allows you to fail at comprehending the internetz.

The whole thing is non-serious sarcasm.
 
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