Brit carrier at midway?

hipper

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On average, how many radar equipped planed did a British carrier normally stock? How long was the radar range of such planes?

There was no average Squadrons were either ASV equipped or were not, in this case Illustrious had a squadron of Swordfisk my 2 with ASV radar.

ASV radar I. The mode used by swordfish had a range of 36 miles though target size had an influence.

One of the better features is that ASV equipped planes could identify other radar equipped aircraft using IFF enabling them to spot each other over a long distance.

nB the Black Cat Catalina night attack squadrons were equipped with the same ASV my 2 radar.

Cheers Hipper.
 
There was no average Squadrons were either ASV equipped or were not, in this case Illustrious had a squadron of Swordfisk my 2 with ASV radar.

ASV radar I. The mode used by swordfish had a range of 36 miles though target size had an influence.

One of the better features is that ASV equipped planes could identify other radar equipped aircraft using IFF enabling them to spot each other over a long distance.

nB the Black Cat Catalina night attack squadrons were equipped with the same ASV my 2 radar.

Cheers Hipper.

Interesting information. Thanks Hipper.

Just a long shot question, but could the IFF detection ability be used as comunication device? Maybe by turning it off and on? If so this might allow the Brits to relay location of enemy plans.

New question, could the detection of enemy radars extend to ship radars?
 

hipper

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Interesting information. Thanks Hipper.

Just a long shot question, but could the IFF detection ability be used as comunication device? Maybe by turning it off and on? If so this might allow the Brits to relay location of enemy plans.

New question, could the detection of enemy radars extend to ship radars?

the question is correct IFF equipment was used to communicate between ASV equipped aircraft and specially equipped Ships, and between ASV equipped aircraft.

Most nations had radar detectors in WW2 that could detect other nations Radar signals.

My error though it was ASV II that equipped 829 squadrons Swordfish.

Cheers Hipper
 
Here's what the RN needs in the Pacific in June 1942. Can you imagine this force arriving at Pearl Harbour in May 1942. HMS Indomitable, HMS Indefatigable, HMS Unicorn, HMS Illustrious, HMS Victorious and HMS Formidable - all were built in time for Midway, except for Indie and Unicorn, whose construction will need to be fast tracked.

British_aircraft_carriers_at_anchor_c1945.jpg


Of course if these Brit carriers are in the western Pacific, this means a Japan-first strategy is in place for at least the RN's heavy units, that Sommerville's Indian Ocean does not exist, and more than likely Ark Royal, Glorious, Courageous, Furious, Eagle and Hermes are all still in service in the summer 1942's Med and Atlantic ops.
 
Here's what the RN needs in the Pacific in June 1942. Can you imagine this force arriving at Pearl Harbour in May 1942. HMS Indomitable, HMS Indefatigable, HMS Unicorn, HMS Illustrious, HMS Victorious and HMS Formidable - all were built in time for Midway, except for Indie and Unicorn, whose construction will need to be fast tracked.

British_aircraft_carriers_at_anchor_c1945.jpg


Of course if these Brit carriers are in the western Pacific, this means a Japan-first strategy is in place for at least the RN's heavy units, that Sommerville's Indian Ocean does not exist, and more than likely Ark Royal, Glorious, Courageous, Furious, Eagle and Hermes are all still in service in the summer 1942's Med and Atlantic ops.

To start, have Tirpitz get sunk some time in 1941 or early 1942. Better yet, have the Admiralty come to realize that Hitler doesn't have the guts to actually put his biggest battleship in an actual combat situation, and thus simply ignores her, freeing up more Royal Navy assets for the Pacific.
 
To start, have Tirpitz get sunk some time in 1941 or early 1942. Better yet, have the Admiralty come to realize that Hitler doesn't have the guts to actually put his biggest battleship in an actual combat situation, and thus simply ignores her, freeing up more Royal Navy assets for the Pacific.

Or a couple of Duds actually explode and / or the RAF assign more bombers to attacking them while they are on the West Coast of France

Both of the sisters bombed in Western France before the channel dash - in fact it was because they were both damaged that

Have all the ships in Brest badly Mauled by the RAF and / or a disastrous Op Cerberus sees them crippled / sunk

Lets face it if Op Cerberus was a wargame then the Germans continually rolled 6s and the British 1s

So have say Gneisenau Crippled by Bombs (OTL only 2 of the 4 hits exploded) plus Torpedo hit in Brest and she plays no further part in the war.

Scharnhorst while in La Pallice had 2 x 1000 pound bombs go all the way through the ship exiting the double bottomed hull without exploding a 3rd 1000 bomb also hit the side of the ship near to the aft 11" Turret but it too failed to explode - have these explode or more bombs hit and that is probably the end of her war as well.

Or have both ships sank / Mission killed earlier in the war - plenty of opportunity's for this to happen - both ships bumped convoys escorted by British Battleships before April 1941 and of course had Renown been a bit luckier off Norway in April 1940 not only could we have seen one of the ships crippled/sunk but this act probably saves HMS Furious as well

What ever the reason this leaves the KM surface fleet with Just Tirpitz at the end of (latest) Feb 42.
 
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