Brazil and Argentina split Paraguay between them after the Paraguayan War

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How it would be divided? Who gets what? Leads to war? I think I read they almost came to blows, or so I heard. Can this butterfly the end of the Empire?
 
How it would be divided? Who gets what? Leads to war? I think I read they almost came to blows, or so I heard. Can this butterfly the end of the Empire?

Impossible, Pedro II was absolutely against Brazil annexing Paraguay, heck he didn't even wanted to take the land we took from them after the war, the only option would be Argentina annexing the whole paraguay, but this could ignite a war between Brazil and Argentina to counter their expansionism
 
Not impossible, although Brazil really didn't want to. Argentina wanted to annex all Paraguayan territory west of the Paraguay River, while Brazil wanted to keep Paraguay as a buffer state. If Argentina had prevailed(unlikely, since after mid-1868 the war was almost entirely Brazil vs. Paraguay), Brazil could have gone for the rest of Paraguay. That's the only way I can imagine it happening.
 
I think the Paraguay river is not the best way to split Paraguay, but rather the Sierras. The Sierras split Paraguay in two different economical and cultural areas to this day. The East is richer, agriculture-based and Brazilian-influenced; the West is poorer, livestock-based and Argentinian-influenced. EDIT: The East was totally covered by the Alto Parana Atlantic forest until 1970, while the West was already covered by livestock ranchs and the whole of the Paraguayan population. END OF EDIT.

So, I think the basin of the Alto Parana should go to Brazil, and the basin of the Paraguay River should go to Argentina.
 
You need to butterfly away the Article VIII of the treaty of the Triple Alliance and change the general feeling that the enemy was Solano and not the people of Paraguay.
 
Brazil never supported the division of Paraguay because needed it as a buffer state against a possible Argentine invasion to Mato Grosso. During the debates about the treaty of the Tripple Alliance the Brazilian cabinet of Foreign Affairs stated clearly that they wouldn't accept the Argentine claim to the whole of the right bank of the Paraguay River, and that they even preferred to give it to Bolivia rather than letting the Argentines take it. However, if the goverment in Buenos Aires refused to change their maximum claims then the Brazilian claim should be increased to include all the lands to the Ypane Guazu River (it would make Concepcion be a Brazilian city).
 
Short answer: NO

Long answer: Even with the best generals and soldiers fighting 3 countries at a time was nigh impossible to win against.
IMO Paraguay had a chance of knocking out Argentina and Uruguay in the Battle of Tuyuti (where both their presidents were present on the field), then they'd just be up against the largest country on the continent.
 
IMO Paraguay had a chance of knocking out Argentina and Uruguay in the Battle of Tuyuti (where both their presidents were present on the field), then they'd just be up against the largest country on the continent.

The only chance of victory for Paraguay is by keeping Argentina out of the war. Argentinean troops, no matter how well they fought, weren't the main Argentinean contribution to the war; the role of Argentina as a base, and supply route for Brazilian troops was. If Brazil is forced to fight Paraguay solely through Mato Grosso, the War becomes much harder, maybe even impossible for Brazil to win.
 
I wouldn't say impossible but it would definitely become bloodier, possibly becoming a war of attrition where Paraguay has to seek terms, though the terms of the peace may be softer then OTL
 
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