Empire of America. Expect a lengthy formal style for the monarch.
That could work out well very nicely, actually. Or maybe Hesperia.What about Empire of Colombia ?
Empire of America. Expect a lengthy formal style for the monarch.
Colombia name was not that popular, heck was more popular in English even.What about Empire of Colombia ?
Plus Paraguayan and Chileans, as both those groups were purposeful differentiate themselves of the inhabitants of the Virreinos.
I doubt it, the resentment against the Penisulares, as their actions was constantly against the local populations interest, higher taxes that was mostly illegally appropriated by the Peninsular Bureaucrats, prohibition of all industry endevour so the Americas was complete dependent of Spain for elaborated products, the exclusion of all the government positions, outside the military, for the local population, among other created a lot of resentment against the Spanish in general, and the crown in Particular.
I still could see La plata, Chile and Paraguay declaring independence, and I could see Peru and Nueva Granada demanding a King, distinct of the Spanish emperor, for themselves.
One thing that could happen would be to use an old name from the early colonial period
The Province of Tierra Firme
So we have the Empire of Tierra Firme which gets shortened to Firme colloquially?
I doubt this would happen because Tierra Firme would just mean "dry land", and I don't think a country would call itself Firm. I think Empire of the Indies is the most likely choice, with Ultramar being a possible contender.
Well that is enough for me to not rebelWould that make the inhabitants Ultramarines?![]()
A OK, but plus being themselves for a Lot of Spanish and Criollos, they were French, and that don't help their pipularity
Well they literally called the Latin American colonies Tierra Firme until they were divided into New Spain and Peru in OTL.
In English it was called the Spanish Main and Spaniards also colloquially adopted this as El Main... so that’s another possibility
Independentism already exist and Miranda already was pushing the plans would be the first republic of colombia thus new granada would take that as the excuse we use OTL, Peru might goes the wail but others have already too much hate to the spanish and would need just a bad spark and direct meddling in the americas would be that.I think this can be solved relatively easily. With a Spanish powerbase in Mexico City or Havana, and with a Spanish Crown greatly weakened, a forward thinking king might decide (or be forced) to give criollos more economic rights (which would please New Granada), and might decide to end extreme mercantilism in order to manage and get more industrial goods from England (which would please La Plata). Those two things alone might, I think, diffuse the tension between peninsulares (which would rapidly dwindle in number if Spain no longer controls, well, Spain) and criollos, with the inevitability of a criollo king sealing the deal.
If all of this happens due to a more successful Napoleon or whatnot exiling the Spanish monarchy permanently, England might also step in to try and have an ally to balance against the Continental System and the United States.
Independentism already exist and Miranda already was pushing the plans would be the first republic of colombia thus new granada would take that as the excuse we use OTL, Peru might goes the wail but others have already too much hate to the spanish and would need just a bad spark and direct meddling in the americas would be that.
Unique, almost a bless for us colombians(and he was a venezuelan of all people...we never got real heroes beside santander) and he was pushing a popular feeling in the era? remember Llorente Flower Vase? that would still happen.I don't think there's that much hatred for Spain. Miranda was a... weird character, which is one of the reasons he pushed so hard for Latin American independence, but I don't htink most criollo people would really risk it all on an independentist journey if they have equal rights with Spanish-born and the ability to trade.
Those were first seeds, like early US discontent.I'm sure that if Spain just tried to go in without major changes massive revolts might occur, but they might just pull it off. The 1750s also saw massive (even more popular) revolts against Spain - the comuneros in New Granada and Paraguay and Tupac Amarú's revolt in Perú - yet it took 60 years until full independence.
Unique, almost a bless for us colombians(and he was a venezuelan of all people...we never got real heroes beside santander) and he was pushing a popular feeling in the era? remember Llorente Flower Vase? that would still happen.
Those were first seeds, like early US discontent.